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Court: Texas had no right to take polygamists' kids 3 minutes ago
AP via Yahoo ^ | 5/22/08

Posted on 05/22/2008 10:46:31 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

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To: driftdiver; eleni121; claudiustg; BlueMoose
eleni121>>“the stepford wives dress up like haloween pioneer women.”

driftdiver>Perhaps the only crime of which there is evidence.

Oh, but that's the one that was jumped on right away following the raid.

1,321 posted on 05/25/2008 6:20:41 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: humblegunner
Where did their money come from?

Us.

1,322 posted on 05/25/2008 7:02:53 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: driftdiver

But we don’t know there isn’t evidence, we only know we haven’t seen it published in the media.


1,323 posted on 05/25/2008 7:14:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: UCANSEE2

“But we don’t know there isn’t evidence, we only know we haven’t seen it published in the media.”

We do know the warrant was obtained fraudulently so any evidence that was there cannot be used. So any case they may have been able to make gets tossed. Smooth move.

They separated 400 kids from their parents right. They don’t even come close to meeting the legal requirements to do that.

I’m the government; I’m here to help. /sarc


1,324 posted on 05/25/2008 7:35:15 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

“We do know the warrant was obtained fraudulently so any evidence that was there cannot be used. “


We only consider the warrant fraudulent because of the appellate court. That may be overturned this coming week.

There is another thread with a statement from LE that the validity of the first warrant has nothing to do with the evidence they collected.

We will just have to wait and see if that holds up in court.


1,325 posted on 05/25/2008 7:38:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: UCANSEE2

“We only consider the warrant fraudulent because of the appellate court. That may be overturned this coming week.”

They named a man whom they knew was not in the state. They lied. There may be a weasel way out of it but they lied. but I guess its ok for our public officials to lie.

“There is another thread with a statement from LE that the validity of the first warrant has nothing to do with the evidence they collected.”

Sure, we don’t need no stinkun warrant. Those obsolete things are for Republics and not the socialist nirvana we are.


1,326 posted on 05/25/2008 7:42:15 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

when did the first ‘search’ occur?

When did the LE talk to Barlow?


1,327 posted on 05/25/2008 9:15:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: atruelady

They came in on a fale complaint, grabbed every child in the complex whether or not there was any reason or evidence to suggst abuse, and tore them all away from their parents. The “right of the people to be secure in their persons, paperss, and effects” was violated, as well as the rule that you must have probable cause. They may have had it agisnt some of the families and/or the organization, even with a phony complainant, but they clearly did not have such a cause against all or even most. They clearly went well beyond their legal authority.


1,328 posted on 05/26/2008 9:10:01 AM PDT by TBP
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To: jpl

I guess separating 400 children from their mothers based on a prank call is still considered heavy handed by some...


1,329 posted on 05/26/2008 4:02:25 PM PDT by omega4179 (b.hussein)
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To: ElkGroveDan; P-Marlowe

Strongly disagree with the court.

So long as no one was claiming the children, then they HAD to be reunited to their legal parent(s). Who else would do it but Child Services? Billy Bob’s Auctions, Inc?


1,330 posted on 05/27/2008 7:01:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Would you accept it if every kid on your block was taken because some of your neighbors were abusive and they took your kids with that explanation?


1,331 posted on 05/30/2008 8:24:37 AM PDT by freedomrings69
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