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Bartlett drops opposition to oil drilling in Arctic refuge
Baltimore Sun/AP ^ | May 22, 2008 | staff

Posted on 05/22/2008 12:13:35 PM PDT by saganite

Congressman Roscoe Bartlett says high oil prices have prompted him to drop his longtime opposition to oil and natural gas drilling in a national wildlife refuge in Alaska.

The Maryland Republican has co-sponsored a bill that would allow for oil and gas production on part of the coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: 110th; anwr; congress; drilling; energy; environment; roscoebartlett
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1 posted on 05/22/2008 12:13:35 PM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite

Well, one RINO gets it.


2 posted on 05/22/2008 12:15:59 PM PDT by calex59
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To: saganite

Related story posted below

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2019824/posts


3 posted on 05/22/2008 12:16:29 PM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite

That’s a nice start. But I’m more concerned about the Seante where such bills come to die. We’ve passed this several times in the House only to face a filibuster in the Senate.


4 posted on 05/22/2008 12:16:41 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: saganite

Paging Sen. McCain.


5 posted on 05/22/2008 12:17:40 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: calex59

IDK that Roscoe Bartlett was a true RINO; he is pretty conservative on most things, just off on this issue.


6 posted on 05/22/2008 12:17:47 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: saganite

The Sand Kingdoms are staking money on pallets in warehouses. U.S. families are getting squeezed and stressed more so than in decades, and this guy FINALLY comes to terms with reality. Pardon me for not being more appreciative. No watch the Eco-terrorist go nuts and start redeploying all the hyper scare stories within their manifestos, er, with the MSM.


7 posted on 05/22/2008 12:18:28 PM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: saganite

Sen Stevens and Sen Murkowski had a Bill to allow leasing in ANWR when the price reached 125. Seemed a long way off at the time, which was two weeks ago.


8 posted on 05/22/2008 12:18:41 PM PDT by RightWhale (You are reading this now)
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To: All

Well, whoop-de-doo!! Pin a rose on that guy. It just so happens, that most of the reasons why we have NO DRILLING or being built refining operations is due to a DNC controlled Congress and some totally nut case GOP members who allow the crackpot environmentalists to call the shots. We should be putting the blame where it belongs and no matter what they say, CORN and WIND power isn’t the answer!! There is NO SHORTAGE of oil.


9 posted on 05/22/2008 12:19:39 PM PDT by cousair
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To: saganite
“Bartlett acknowledges that drilling would have an environmental cost,....”

Compare these costs (about 2,000 acres of land for the drilling rigs, plus access roads and pipelines — none of which will harm the Caribou) to the environmental costs of biofuels (millions of acres of good farmland diverted to growing fuel, water depletion, fertilizers, pesticides, etc.).

10 posted on 05/22/2008 12:19:58 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: saganite

Oh great, well it only takes like 10 minutes to get it out of the ground and into your fuel tank, so it should have an immediate effect on those high prices. Sorry, way too late.


11 posted on 05/22/2008 12:20:25 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: calex59

ATTENTION: Norm Coleman.....

See, it’s OK to change one’s mind when one discovers that one is WRONG!!!


12 posted on 05/22/2008 12:20:34 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: saganite

As the election and $4/gal gas looms, the RINOs, who helped the Dems defeat ANWAR drilling all these years, are falling into line.
Now the voters ought to go after the Democrats in their districts, who are the main culprits. Let them know that if they and Pres. Clinton had let drilling commence 10 years ago, there would be an additional 1,000,000 barrels of oil available for the US every day. Their dancing to the enviro-nazis’ tune is costing every family approximately $3,500 in extra fuel costs this year...the Gaia-worshiper tax.


13 posted on 05/22/2008 12:22:25 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“Bartlett acknowledges that drilling would have an environmental cost,....”

Polar bears before people...


14 posted on 05/22/2008 12:22:32 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Ronald Reagan Fought Regulation, John McCain Brought Regulation...)
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To: americanophile
Or we cut oil consumption by 4% and we can have the market impact of ANWR tomorrow.
15 posted on 05/22/2008 12:22:49 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: saganite
Finally!! A congressman with common sense.

Why isn't President Bush pushing ANWR drilling in a national address from the Oval Office? This is the time to do it.

16 posted on 05/22/2008 12:23:24 PM PDT by stockstrader (CHANGE--a euphemism for further dividing our country along racial, social and economic lines)
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To: saganite

Swell, Roscoe. But what do we do for the next 8-10 years until such oil reaches the consumer? Jackass!


17 posted on 05/22/2008 12:24:16 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: saganite
I don't know how it would work, but a caller into a radio show today suggested that since 80% of the domestic oil we produce in the US is actually exported to other countries, maybe it is time that the congress introduces emergency legislation to stop that. If we kept 100% of our own oil, that would increase supply at a time we desperately need it.
18 posted on 05/22/2008 12:26:14 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: saganite

Whoa what is this 2 Rino’s seeing the light on the same day? Amazing. We really do live in weird times. /sarcasm


19 posted on 05/22/2008 12:26:17 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: kittymyrib
As the election and $4/gal gas looms

"Looms"? I paid $ 4.06 today for 93 octane at Cumberland Farms in MA. Regular (87 octane) was $ 3.86.

20 posted on 05/22/2008 12:26:45 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: americanophile

“Oh great, well it only takes like 10 minutes to get it out of the ground and into your fuel tank, so it should have an immediate effect on those high prices. Sorry, way too late.”

Actually, I disagree. We don’t currently have a supply problem. If we did, then your comment would be valid. (Remember the gas lines in the 70s? THAT was a supply problem.)

Right now the problem is speculators pushing the price up on *projected* supply problems. We could very easily SPOOK the speculators by aggressively pursuing domestic production. If we suddenly said “ANWR - OK; Gulf Coast - OK; Bakken formation - massive tax breaks for anyone who can develop that potential...” the price would drop very suddenly.

This is a bubble I think we can burst if we can just apply the right prick.

So... all you “pricks” in Congress who are holding back on domestic exploration and development - STOP.


21 posted on 05/22/2008 12:27:20 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: americanophile

There was an article several weeks ago that I thought about posting that said Alaska was going to allow drilling on state land adjacent to ANWR and with slant drilling technology would be able to extract oil from ANWR and they would not have to pay royalties to the Federal govt because of a law they cited in the article so the congressman’s new stance may have something to do with that. On the other hand, the new ruling on polar bears may allow the congressman to eat his cake and have it too since drilling may now be barred because of the bears. He would get to come out in support of something that can’t happen anyway. Just my cynical mind working here.


22 posted on 05/22/2008 12:27:26 PM PDT by saganite
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To: Obadiah

It is just sad that any American chooses foreigners ( especially ones who would see us all dead ) over fellow Americans when it comes to securing standard of living and security. Darn right traitorous in my book.


23 posted on 05/22/2008 12:28:22 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: pabianice

It won’t take that long actually. The day Congress approves drilling on American soil it will cause the cost per barrel to plummet from that day forth asnd those who specualted will be going to Congress looking for redress for their speculation losses.


24 posted on 05/22/2008 12:29:30 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: calex59
Well, one RINO gets it.

I'm happy that Rep. Bartlett (my own rep) has finally seen the light on this issue. To be fair though, he is quite conservative with regards to other issues, especially illegal immigration, so I wouldn't go so far as to insult the man with the "RINO" label.

25 posted on 05/22/2008 12:29:52 PM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: codercpc

Not really and that’s a silly argument. The market alloocates the oil far better than some govt interference ever could. For instance, the oil from Prudhoe bay is mostly shipped to Asia because shipping costs make that more efficient. Be careful when you hear some politician spouting populist nonsense. It’s usually detrimental.


26 posted on 05/22/2008 12:31:09 PM PDT by saganite
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To: Robert DeLong
The day Congress approves drilling on American soil it will cause the cost per barrel to plummet from that day forth

Ummmmm...no.

Drilling on American soil is permitted in lots of places.

And don't kid yourself that ANWR is Saudi Arabia.

27 posted on 05/22/2008 12:32:19 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: saganite
BTW, this is the Maryland RINO Roscoe Smoscoe


28 posted on 05/22/2008 12:32:41 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: bolobaby

So, ah, be a prick, huh?


29 posted on 05/22/2008 12:33:02 PM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: Obadiah
"The Sand Kingdoms are staking money on pallets in warehouses."

OTOH, the money they're making is U.S. dollars, which just aren't worth a damn thing anymore.

Joke's on them!

30 posted on 05/22/2008 12:33:17 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: saganite

Well, Roscoe, better late than never, but you’re waaaay too late, because the Dems will never allow it. So you safe to “change your mind” now that you know it ain’t gonna happen..............


31 posted on 05/22/2008 12:33:31 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Strategerist

One rich republican - paging one rich republican to photograph the ARTIC National Wildlife Refuge and show these PHOTOS in a TELEVISION AD ALL WEEKEND LONG 24/7 and say “OUR DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS REFUSE TO DRILL FOR OIL ON OUR OWN LAND”...Instead they drive up our prices and blame everyone else when they can TAKE ACTION...Call your SENATOR TODAY! (202)........


32 posted on 05/22/2008 12:34:40 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: codercpc
but a caller into a radio show today suggested that since 80% of the domestic oil we produce in the US is actually exported to other countries, maybe it is time that the congress introduces emergency legislation to stop that. If we kept 100% of our own oil, that would increase supply at a time we desperately need it.

Probably a moron who also supported those one day "gas boycotts" to "stick it to the oil companies."

The economic ignorance of Americans is astounding.

33 posted on 05/22/2008 12:35:02 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: pnh102
I'm happy that Rep. Bartlett (my own rep) has finally seen the light on this issue. To be fair though, he is quite conservative with regards to other issues, especially illegal immigration, so I wouldn't go so far as to insult the man with the "RINO" label.

My criteria for RINO is that the republican in question shows decided Dem, or stupid, qualities. In this case thinking that drilling in ANWR would hurt Caribou or make a difference in our reserve capacity is just stupid. Anyone in the US who thinks that drilling for more oil, in Alaska or offshore or anywhere that oil lies, is detrimental to the US is either a Dem or someone so stupid as to warrent the RINO label whether they are a politician of just an average voter. I hope I have cleared up what my interpretation of a RINO is. Your Senator qualifies to be a RINO in the stupid category.

34 posted on 05/22/2008 12:35:24 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Robert DeLong

It will definitely take some of the wind out of this storm...


35 posted on 05/22/2008 12:35:38 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: saganite

I’m more interested in opening up exploration off the east and west coasts than Alaska.


36 posted on 05/22/2008 12:36:47 PM PDT by kms61
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To: codercpc
...a caller into a radio show today suggested that since 80% of the domestic oil we produce in the US is actually exported

Ask yourself: Does this make sense?

There's no point in incurring higher shipping costs than are necessary to get oil from wellhead to refinery.

On that basis, it is certainly conceivable that a significant amount of Alaskan oil might be shipped to Japan. But it would be well short of 80%, since most of the Alaskan oil would be shipped to refineries on the West Coast (a few of which were built for the express purpose of refining Alaskan oil).

Domestic oil production at other locations is always closer to stateside refineries than overseas refineries (though some might be shipped to Puerto Rico for refining, then shipped back to the U.S.).

Shortly after completion of the TAPline, I believe a majority of Alaskan oil was, in fact, shipped to Japan -- because there was a market for it there and the California refineries were awash with California oil.

No longer.

The caller was almost certainly misinformed -- probably because of reports in the seventies on Japan taking most of the Alaskan oil. Now, we consume far more and produce far less. Very little would be shipped elsewhere.

37 posted on 05/22/2008 12:38:09 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: saganite

Greenies make me crazy. We have oil platforms off the Louisiana coast. Guess where the best fishing is - yep, by the oil rigs. And, the ones inland have never caused any trouble. In fact, the deer cross over the pipelines and hunters know this. Wild life is abundant. But the sheeple keep buying into the green agenda like it is their salvation or something. Loons - all of them!


38 posted on 05/22/2008 12:38:28 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: americanophile

Well, do we do it today or tomorrow???next year? next decade??? If we’d done it ten years ago (as we should’ve) we’d see results today...

Better today than not at all...


39 posted on 05/22/2008 12:38:41 PM PDT by Boonie
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To: saganite

You are wise.


40 posted on 05/22/2008 12:38:57 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: americanophile
Oh great, well it only takes like 10 minutes to get it out of the ground and into your fuel tank, so it should have an immediate effect on those high prices. Sorry, way too late.

Better late than never

41 posted on 05/22/2008 12:39:06 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: calex59
Your Senator qualifies to be a RINO in the stupid category.

Maryland has no Republican senators.

Furthermore, Rep. Bartlett stands strong on other conservative issues, he's certainly no maverick, and since it always comes down to choosing between him and some commie as representative, he will get my vote.

42 posted on 05/22/2008 12:39:13 PM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: saganite
co-sponsored a bill that would allow for oil and gas production on part of the coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

The bill should allow for drilling, not only in Alaska, but off-shore, as well.

Heck, China is drilling on the Cuban shelf just 60 miles off Flordia, but US companies are not allowed to drill off US coasts.

Our political numbats in Washington are the ones strangling us with their idiotic regulations,
43 posted on 05/22/2008 12:43:07 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: saganite

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!


44 posted on 05/22/2008 12:45:45 PM PDT by RoadTest ("- - Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols - - " Ezekiel 14:6)
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To: Boonie

That’s my point.


45 posted on 05/22/2008 12:47:06 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile
Actually, if the president announced an immediate drilling program in Anwar, off the coasts, and on federal lands in CONUS, it might have a dramatic immediate affect on oil prices.

Imagine if POTUS declared that energy prices had reached the level of a national emergency and required immediate action that included:

1) Drilling everywhere
2) No more boutique gasoline blends
3) A crash construction project to build a number of nuclear power plants
4) A separate emergency construction project to build a number of coal to oil plants
5) Incentives and cutting red tape that would lead to construction of new refineries.

Don't you think that would immediately affect the price of oil?

46 posted on 05/22/2008 12:51:27 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: bolobaby
Right now the problem is speculators pushing the price up on *projected* supply problems. We could very easily SPOOK the speculators by aggressively pursuing domestic production. If we suddenly said “ANWR - OK; Gulf Coast - OK; Bakken formation - massive tax breaks for anyone who can develop that potential...” the price would drop very suddenly.

Spot on comments. God save the United States from our own eco-freaks.

47 posted on 05/22/2008 12:51:42 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (John McCain: If you don't blame the dims for high oil prices, I will not vote for you.)
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To: americanophile
>>>Sorry, way too late.<<<

Other things that were "way to late" are now treated with reverence in the annals of mankind.....a couple come to mind:

The vaccine for polio - Jonas Salk (he was way way late)
The Surge - 3 years too late but the results are stunning

"Way to late" is another way to say "accept defeat".

48 posted on 05/22/2008 12:53:17 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: trumandogz
Or we cut oil consumption by 4% and we can have the market impact of ANWR tomorrow.

Beginning with perks of Congress critters!

Make them all drive Priuses!!

49 posted on 05/22/2008 12:54:49 PM PDT by airborne (LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Imagine if POTUS

I doubt the current POTUS is going to do much, after this recent act:

Bush administration bars drilling in Arctic wetland
 
05/19/2008 5:21:51 AM PDT · by thackney · 72 replies · 1,308+ views
Reuters ^ | May 16, 2008 | Yereth Rosen
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - The Bush administration on Friday proposed keeping potentially oil-rich wetlands in Arctic Alaska off-limits to drilling because of their ecological sensitivity, a reversal of its earlier plan. The Bureau of Land Management proposed a 10-year leasing moratorium for 430,000 acres of wetlands north and east of vast Teshekpuk Lake in the National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska. Environmentalists and local groups hailed the decision. "This plan provides a balanced approach to energy development and wildlife protection, and forms a solid basis for the Bureau of Land Management to proceed with an oil and gas lease sale later this year,"...

50 posted on 05/22/2008 12:57:57 PM PDT by TomGuy
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