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Former IDF chief: The Golan Heights is not indispensable
jpost.com ^ | May 24, 2008 17:16 | Updated May 24, 2008 18:40 | jpost.com

Posted on 05/24/2008 11:12:18 AM PDT by F15Eagle

Former chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Dan Halutz said Saturday that it will hurt to give up the Golan Heights as part of a peace agreement with Syria, though it is a possibility.

"The thought of ceding the Golan Heights gives me a bellyache, but for real peace one must be willing to pay a real price. Theoretically, Israel can do without the Golan," said Halutz during a cultural event in Beersheba, Saturday.

Halutz refused to divulge whether he knew about the negotiations held for the past year between Syria and Israel with Turkish mediation since they began or whether he came to know of them following the Prime Minister's Office statement last week.

Halutz said that ceding the Golan was a "mental and cultural" problem, since the State of Israel now held its current borders for longer than its previous borders. "A whole generation of Israelis grew up with the Golan Heights being part of Israel - it is a problem to entertain the notion of parting with the Heights," he continued.

On Wednesday, Israel and Syria announced that the two countries will resume peace talks after an eight-year break.

The former IDF chief also mentioned the situation in the South, specifically the continuous rocket and mortar barrage on the western Negev. He said that when he was IDF chief, he recommended responding mightily to the first projectile attacks from the Gaza Strip, after the disengagement and withdrawal from the area.

"We didn't carry out any operations - and this is the result. We didn't stand by our declaration," he added.

He advocated taking action in order to ease the situation of Gaza-border community residents, adding that the situation in the South is more pressing than the Iranian threat.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appeasement; chamberlain; falsepeace; golan; israel; quisling; roadmap; stuckonstupid
stupid, stupid, stupid
1 posted on 05/24/2008 11:12:19 AM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

for real peace one must be willing to pay a real price.

poland and sudetenland agree.


2 posted on 05/24/2008 11:15:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: F15Eagle
Halutz said that ceding the Golan was a "mental and cultural" problem, since the State of Israel now held its current borders for longer than its previous borders. "A whole generation of Israelis grew up with the Golan Heights being part of Israel - it is a problem to entertain the notion of parting with the Heights,"

Sounds like Halutz has been talking to McCain.

3 posted on 05/24/2008 11:15:21 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: F15Eagle
israel has political dummies wanting to lead her over a cliff just like america does.

for some reason these idiots will not understand that iran and it's muslim zombies like syria and hezbollah don't want peace with israel, they want israel's total destruction and won't ever stop until that happens.

the koranimals can never be appeased

4 posted on 05/24/2008 11:18:51 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: F15Eagle

It would be one thing if you could give it up and actually get some peace.


5 posted on 05/24/2008 11:20:03 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (You must choose! Death, or Bulunga!)
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To: F15Eagle
People have built homes and communities there. Doesn't anyone care?

ML/NJ

6 posted on 05/24/2008 11:56:28 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: F15Eagle

“Move not the ancient boundaries” - Proverbs.


7 posted on 05/24/2008 1:57:53 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: F15Eagle

Another victim of IGTS—Israeli General Traitor Syndrome. Barak was the last major casualty of this illness.


8 posted on 05/24/2008 3:52:48 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Salem; SJackson; Alouette; 444Flyer; Esther Ruth; Cindy; blam; Travis McGee; Diogenesis; ...

ping to Roadmap idiocy


9 posted on 05/24/2008 5:49:15 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle
Seven Shepherds Video
b'SHEM Yah'shua

10 posted on 05/24/2008 6:10:10 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: F15Eagle

Why on earth does Israel need a “peace” agreement with Syria? Israel can destroy Syria many times over. And so long as Israel holds the Golan and Hizbollah is contained, Syria is of no threat to them whatsoever. Israel needs a peace agreement with Syria like we need one with Equatorial Guinea. The entire issue is an absurdity.


11 posted on 05/24/2008 6:43:59 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Don’t know unless they think it will disrupt Syrian-Iranian relations. But I find that virtually impossible to believe ...

dunno ... bizarre ... the Golan Heights should never be given up.


12 posted on 05/24/2008 6:53:44 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: F15Eagle
"The thought of ceding the Golan Heights gives me a bellyache, but for real peace one must be willing to pay a real price."

Come on Charlie Brown, I promise I'll really hold the football this time. Come on, kick it, I'll hold it, ....pleeeeeeeeze. I'm not kiddin this time.

13 posted on 05/24/2008 6:56:52 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: joebuck

It’s insanity, that’s for certain. Give up the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and the Golan Heights.

And then it’s “Enact the Final Solution” time by Israel’s enemies ....


14 posted on 05/24/2008 7:16:10 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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15 posted on 05/24/2008 7:53:16 PM PDT by Salem (What can men do against such reckless hate? ... Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them!)
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"for real peace one must be willing to pay a real price"

This is soft-headed liberal b.s., given the regional context and the nature of the Syrian regime. What does Israel really gain by getting a scrap of paper from a Syrian govt. that is in reality a terrorist organization? Maybe Syria cools it for a couple of years at best, but nothing short of comprehensive regime change and societal change that cannot presently be imagined is going to make Syria a good, peaceful, non-terroristic neighbor for Israel.

No, what keeps the 'peace' now, to the extent that the armed standoff is peaceful simply IS the Israeli possession of overwhelming air and military superiority plus possession of the Golan Heights. Syria at present and the forseeable future CANNOT seriously attack Israel, except by its sponsorhip of Hizbollah and Hamas. Israel would do far better to concentrate upon maximizing the destruction to those terrorist entities and keeping Syria thoroughly deterred in military terms.

The day that Israel begins to rely upon anything other that her own military self-defense to "keep the peace" will be the beginning of a new period of extreme danger for the survival of Israel.
16 posted on 05/25/2008 12:23:10 AM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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To: F15Eagle

“Real peace”? Yeah sure, that’ll happen....
I suppose there’s a reason this guy Halutz is the “former” IDF chief.
He sounds like something straight out of our own appeaser State Department.


17 posted on 05/25/2008 12:33:20 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: F15Eagle
but for real peace one must be willing to pay a real price. maintain peace THROUGH STRENGTH.
18 posted on 05/25/2008 5:46:34 AM PDT by omega4179 (b.hussein)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
It would be one thing if you could give it up and actually get some peace.

Peace between countries only comes from mutual respect culturally, militarily, and ideologically. Muslims respect Jews on none of thse levels.

19 posted on 05/25/2008 11:50:55 AM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: F15Eagle

I think of the sacrifice of the Seventh Brigade fighting
to the last Centurion against a Syrian onslaught at the Hermonit, the heroic fight of the Svika force, and the out-of-hand execution of Israeli POWs by the Syrians at Hushniye junction.

No way can this happen. There can be no peace with Syria as it is presently constituted. When Syria has a freely elected
goverment, no gas weapons and arrests all terrorists within
its borders, then peace might work. They aren’t there yet.


20 posted on 05/25/2008 12:28:07 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Salem

this Olmert guy lost whatever of his values he had as a mayor, a long time ago.


21 posted on 05/25/2008 6:31:23 PM PDT by PRePublic (Islamic Hamas kidnapped Johnston & then "freed" him)
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To: F15Eagle
That would be Dan Halutz... the disgraced IDF Chief Of Staff forced out because of his bungling of the Second Lebanon War. And here he presumes to have sound judgment on the Golan. All one can say is... ROFL!

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22 posted on 05/25/2008 7:26:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Salem; goldstategop; F15Eagle

Jeeze Louise, this “general” couldn’t manage a rubber duckie in his bathtub.


23 posted on 05/27/2008 6:26:24 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hillary, Obama, McCain. Curly, Larry, Moe. Decisions, decisions.)
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