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1 posted on 05/24/2008 1:03:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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This is one of those things that absolutely broke my heart when I studied abroad in England. I guess I’d grown up reading one too many Victorian novel. Church-going had always seemed something respectable and enriching. It’s something I grew up loving. Indeed, the church had always seemed a very warm, welcoming place to me.

Arriving in England, I saw people not only not attending services, but outright bitter and spiteful towards it. Meanwhile, it was pretty routine for people my age to wind up stuperously drunk 3-4 times per week.

I saw kids take a piss on a Union Jack flag, and I, the American, was the only one who stood up against them.

The downward spiral in England is depressing. When you read up on the liturgical history of Britain, it was once the single strongest Catholic tradition in Europe. They’ve completely tossed all that aside. Many a beautiful church goes wholly unrecognized and un-entered by kids my age.

Just very disheartening.


3 posted on 05/24/2008 1:12:02 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not going to weep over the demise of a lifeless husk of Christianity.

Liberalism and syncretism have strangled the life out of this once vibrant Christian nation.

When people no longer want to hear, God moves on to people who will.


5 posted on 05/24/2008 1:37:28 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Huber; sionnsar

Anglican mention ping


6 posted on 05/24/2008 1:39:27 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: SeekAndFind
Having gone through one of those conflict periods at my church of twenty-nine years, and having spent the last year visiting churches, I can see why people not connected to a church might have a negative attitude toward the church. Church people can be very cliquish and contentious. We fight and pick over the smallest things and people are tired of it. I say this as an insider because we have found another church and are working hard at fitting in. If I had not had the experience of church being important in my life, though, I would say, "why bother?"

I found the book, unChristian to be very enlightening on the view twenty-somethings have of the church. We are in danger of being in the same place as Europe in a generation.

11 posted on 05/24/2008 2:58:46 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus said in the Beatitudes: “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.” (Matthew 5:13)
Christians are to preserve society from the rot of sin and evil, as salt preserved food in ancient times. If the Church fails in this mission, it is worthless.


13 posted on 05/24/2008 3:27:26 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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Just let us all know when London is officially renamed as Londonistan!

The way England is shifting towards a mental and spiritual laziness, the Islamists may actually be an improvement.

Someone remind me to not buy British products...

Yours Truly,
The Woim


14 posted on 05/24/2008 3:27:45 PM PDT by The Woim (Respect private property. Abolish 40% of the govt and encourage tax consumers to stop.)
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