Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Researchers predict ice-free North Pole this year
Nunatsiaq News ^ | May 23, 2008 | JANE GEORGE

Posted on 05/25/2008 1:25:21 PM PDT by PROCON

Here's the good news: this summer's Arctic ice melt means an early start to the Hudson Bay shipping season.

Forecasts show Coast Guard icebreakers will no longer be necessary for shipping to Churchill after July 16.

That's 15 days earlier than the average ice-free shipping date of July 31, which means re-supply barges should able to reach communities in Nunavut's Kivalliq and Kitikmeot regions that much earlier.

But the down side to the retreat of the Arctic's thin ice cover is a 50-50 chance that the North Pole will become ice-free this September - for the first time in more than 100,000 years.

(Excerpt) Read more at nunatsiaq.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; damnlies; globalwarming; lies; northpole; predictions

1 posted on 05/25/2008 1:28:07 PM PDT by PROCON
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: PROCON

Things change.


2 posted on 05/25/2008 1:32:36 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

3 posted on 05/25/2008 1:32:51 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs to said?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

4 posted on 05/25/2008 1:33:12 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aristotleman

You’re right....Ice breakers change things...


5 posted on 05/25/2008 1:35:28 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

I will believe this prediction when I see it. I suspect that while the ice will melt faster this summer, because it is thinner, it will reach a point of withdrawl and then come to a dead stop, because it’s just not warm enough.


6 posted on 05/25/2008 1:38:54 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 05/25/2008 1:39:26 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sacajaweau

Bet ice breaking contractors aren’t very happy this year.


8 posted on 05/25/2008 1:39:28 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

I don’t freaking think so: www.spaceweather.com

I do think there is a 100% chance that scary predictions of a 50% chance of something bad happening are pure BS. They know the uneducated public will just see the scary thibg, and then when it doesn’t come to pass, they can use the 50% odds as an out.


9 posted on 05/25/2008 1:39:34 PM PDT by piytar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kirkwood
Poor Santa!

ROFLOL!

10 posted on 05/25/2008 1:39:58 PM PDT by PROCON (Hillary '08)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

11 posted on 05/25/2008 1:43:25 PM PDT by anymouse
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: anymouse
Get used to it , Santa!!

ROFLOL!!

12 posted on 05/25/2008 1:46:44 PM PDT by PROCON (Hillary '08)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

So 100,000 years ago there was global warming

Notice: Not first time ever, just since .......


13 posted on 05/25/2008 1:50:05 PM PDT by GreaterSwiss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: demoskowitz

So, was that you driving your SUV 100,000 years ago?


14 posted on 05/25/2008 1:52:14 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

” I suspect that while the ice will melt faster this summer, because it is thinner,....”

Thickness matters — but, it’s not the only thing.

New sea ice is brackish & therefore melts at a much lower temperature than fresh water ice. The salt gradually leaves the ice & after a year or so, it is no longer brackish. This “old ice” is much less likely to melt.


15 posted on 05/25/2008 1:53:37 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Former Proud Canadian
Have I heard one report on rising sea levels? Complaints of coastal cities under water?

yitbos

16 posted on 05/25/2008 2:01:43 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: PROCON
a 50-50 chance that the North Pole will become ice-free this September - for the first time in more than 100,000 years

And who was at the NP for those 100k years recording this info?

17 posted on 05/25/2008 2:02:11 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

50-50 chance that the North Pole will become ice-free this September - for the first time in more than 100,000 years. ........................ I predict that there is a 50/50 chance that Tampa will be hit with a Hurricane this year. There is a 50/50 chance that the Yanks will win the series (I won’t take bets on that one) This 50/50 is major BS. Tell us there is a definite 100% chance and then I may worry, but a weather prediction is just a prediction. Weather tends to be weather and does what it wants regardless of predictions. My guess, there will be ice in the north pole, Santa need not worry.


18 posted on 05/25/2008 2:11:19 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Where have all our Great Leaders gone? Certainly there must be one out there?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

I heard one scientist say there is more oil under the arctic than the entire Mideast.


19 posted on 05/25/2008 2:17:44 PM PDT by Swiss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Swiss
Just New Orleans, oh wait, they BUILT it under sea level.

Seriously, I don't know what Canadians are crying about. Global warming is good for Canada. Bring it on.

20 posted on 05/25/2008 2:32:51 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: PROCON
But the down side to the retreat of the Arctic's thin ice cover is a 50-50 chance that the North Pole will become ice-free this September -

And this is bad because?

21 posted on 05/25/2008 2:35:36 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON
Good. Instead of getting sled dogs, muckluks, and whatnot, I can just fire up the Chris Craft and zip on up there.

Or paddle the kyak. Whatever.

22 posted on 05/25/2008 2:35:36 PM PDT by Othniel (Kirk: Don't trust them. Don't believe them. Spock: They're dying. Kirk: LET THEM DIE.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON
for the first time in more than 100,000 years

Of course, there is no way they would have known weather or not there was no ice at the pole even 500 years ago, let alone 100,000.

23 posted on 05/25/2008 2:36:58 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

If their prediction comes true, they will say “see! global warming”
If it doesn’t come true, we will near nothing more of it.


24 posted on 05/25/2008 2:50:25 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

Woo hoo. I’ll get my water ski’s and you bring the beers.


25 posted on 05/25/2008 2:51:57 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

Good thing the North Pole has never moved in the last 100,000 years...


26 posted on 05/25/2008 4:51:33 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

Someone screwed up. This is a short term forecast. Usually the forecasts are 30+ years. This is one to check back on, email the writer to ask what happened and if she’ll make a retraction, and post the response.


27 posted on 05/25/2008 5:42:04 PM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Did somebody mentions thickness?


28 posted on 05/25/2008 7:01:59 PM PDT by Thickman (Term limits are the answer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: PROCON

I just saw that Victoria Australia just reported the lowest temperature for the month of May where it got down to -13C (7F) a couple of days ago.


29 posted on 05/25/2008 7:19:20 PM PDT by MarkeyD (McCain ain't nuttin' but a hound dog.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Swiss
I heard one scientist say there is more oil under the arctic than the entire Mideast.

That's true. The dinosaurs killed wooly mammoths and used them for coats.

30 posted on 05/25/2008 7:35:12 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy is the finest collection of hops and barley money can buy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Thickman

I’m glad to see someone caught the inference.


31 posted on 05/25/2008 9:01:16 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: PROCON
Sea Ice conditions in Hudson Bay are exactly normal right now so there is nothing to report here.

The sea ice is usually melts by mid-July in Hudson Bay so again, there is nothing to report here. It returns by mid-December so it is not exactly a long shipping season.


32 posted on 05/26/2008 6:10:15 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Swiss

In ‘84 I was on an exploratory well in the Beaufort Sea, (50 miles off Milne Point in Prudhoe Bay area,) It was drilled from a man-made island. (Mukluk Island)

It was and still is the most expensive well ever drilled. (1.7 Billion $) It was a dry hole. It broke Diamond Shamrock and hurt Exxon so badly, they sold out their interest on the North Slope to Standard Oil. (SAPC)

There is some directional drilling and concrete floater drilling near the shore line, but most of the oil is inland.

The difficulty to drill offshore there, mainly because of the pack ice, will put a halt to any optimism or effort.


33 posted on 05/26/2008 6:23:12 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: PSYCHO-FREEP

But if the ice at the North Pole melts then would it be doable?


34 posted on 05/26/2008 9:19:48 AM PDT by Swiss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: PROCON
50-50 chance that the North Pole will become ice-free this September - for the first time in more than 100,000 years.

Saw the idea that the north pole has not been ice free for that long and then on further readings of the sentence saw that they meant this is the first 50-50 chance in 100,000 years. How they know this is not known, since none of them are over 30.

35 posted on 05/26/2008 9:27:10 AM PDT by RightWhale (You are reading this now)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: piytar
Here is this year's current ice extent compared to 1979 (the first year a satellite image was available). We can watch it throughout the summer to see who is right.

Compare Daily Sea Ice

36 posted on 05/26/2008 8:16:01 PM PDT by CedarDave (Obama: We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson