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Poor, white and exploited (Obomber doesn't really jazz the uneducated babes)
Seattle Times ^ | 5/25/08 | Leonard Pitts Jr.

Posted on 05/25/2008 9:41:59 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: GloriaJane
I will vote against the white half of him ...

He doesn't have a "white half" -- he rejected it.

From his early teens onward, Obama desperately wanted to be black. In "Dreams," he wrote, "I was trying to raise myself to be a black man in America, and beyond the given of my appearance, no one around me seemed to know exactly what that meant." Honolulu’s paucity of African-Americans means he has to learn to be black from the media: "TV, movies, the radio; those were places to start. Pop culture was color-coded, after all, an arcade of images from which you could cop a walk, a talk, a step, a style."

Obama and Race


21 posted on 05/26/2008 4:00:24 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: Libloather

This is just another example of ‘dumb poor whites not voting in their best interest but voting on the basis of guns, God, and gays’ argument.

But this explains why it is considered racist for the ‘dumb poor whites’ to not vote for Obama but it is not racist for 95 percent of blacks to vote for Obama. Since a liberal sees the ‘dumb poor whites’ voting against their best interest, it must be race. Since a liberal sees the 95 percent of blacks voting in their best interest, that can’t be racist.


22 posted on 05/26/2008 4:19:05 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A true patriot will do anything to keep a Democrat out of the White House.)
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To: Libloather

“From then till now, the white poor have often been the front line of white supremacy. You think people with college degrees and six-figure salaries are out there marching around under pointy white hoods, burning crosses? Hardly.”
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No, according to the press those are the idiots who are out there trying to elect Marxist Obama, the poor and uneducated are too smart to fall for the Obamassiah.


23 posted on 05/26/2008 4:47:13 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: hosepipe
they(democrats) have systemically degraded the black race and culture for well nigh 50 years..

They've systematically degraded all races and the American culture for well nigh 50 years. The effect has been especially pernicious to the black race.

24 posted on 05/26/2008 4:58:20 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I have Zero Tolerance for Zero Tolerance policies.)
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To: Hardastarboard
[ They've systematically degraded all races and the American culture for well nigh 50 years. The effect has been especially pernicious to the black race ]

Thats true BUT I wanted to make a point about the blacks.. America seems afraid to even mention them for fear of being scaped.. Its like blacks are the spoiled children in the United States.. and they have gotten Used TO IT..

25 posted on 05/26/2008 7:38:01 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: weegee
[ Obama despises his mother’s race and embraces his wife’s race and heritage. He is too stoopid to understand that HE is the same race as his mama. ]

Jeremiah Wright is even "WHITER" than Obama is.. Nothing stranger than a white man trying to act black.. except for a man acting like a woman.. thats pretty QUEER too..

26 posted on 05/26/2008 7:54:11 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
Whites Afraid to disagree with Blacks...
27 posted on 05/26/2008 8:00:37 AM PDT by LowOiL ("I don't need Mr. Keyes lecturing me on Christianity. That's why I have a pastor." — Barack Obama)
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To: Fred Nerks
I smelled a rat when I read; In other words, he was rejected by the poor and the less educated.

So I suppose the reason most Blacks vote Dem is that they are rich geniuses?

28 posted on 05/26/2008 8:06:37 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ve'elleh toledot 'Aharon uMosheh, beyom dibber HaShem 'et-Mosheh beHar Sinai.)
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To: DugwayDuke; wideawake
This is just another example of ‘dumb poor whites not voting in their best interest but voting on the basis of guns, God, and gays’ argument.

But this explains why it is considered racist for the ‘dumb poor whites’ to not vote for Obama but it is not racist for 95 percent of blacks to vote for Obama. Since a liberal sees the ‘dumb poor whites’ voting against their best interest, it must be race. Since a liberal sees the 95 percent of blacks voting in their best interest, that can’t be racist.

Okay, here's what everybody needs to understand. Blacks aren't voting Democrat just because it's "in their interest" economically to do so (if it were all economics poor whites would vote Democrat too). It's because the Democrats celebrate the Black culture (even its religion, so similar to that of the "hillbillies"). The hatred of America they are encouraged to feel is balanced out by a fanatical rightwing super-patriotism for "Mother Africa." Their quasi-alliance with gays and atheists never affects them personally. And even the secular, "social justice" preachers preach in the bellowing, twanging, sweating Fundamentalist style. Let the libs spit in the faces of Black folk and appeal to them on economic grounds alone and see how loyal they would be.

Poor whites, on the other hand, are appealed to on economics and nothing else. There is no "Mystical Motherland" appealed to to balance out the "G-d d_mn America" drumbeat. (And what would it be? Holy Ancient Socialist Scotland? The Trailer Park National Liberation Army?) They are told they must jettison all their religious beliefs at once. They are told to hate themselves and be ashamed for all their many failings (identical to the very characteristics that are celebrated in Blacks). And there are no attempts to clothe economic socialism in Fundamentalist terms and style.

All this should be obvious to anyone, but for some reason I seem to be the only one who ever says anything about it. And this hypocrisy, this condemnation in one group of the very things that are encouraged and rewarded in the other, is intentional, because the Hegelian/Marxist worldview demands an "antithesis." And poor whites have been chosen to serve as that antithesis.

29 posted on 05/26/2008 8:25:30 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ve'elleh toledot 'Aharon uMosheh, beyom dibber HaShem 'et-Mosheh beHar Sinai.)
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To: Octar

50% white, 26% arab, 24% African.


30 posted on 05/26/2008 9:11:42 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: DugwayDuke

It’s not just the white voters who “vote against their own best interest”. Democrats consistently lose black religious conservatives who refuse to stand WITH the Democrats on the issues of same sex marriage, homosexual rights are portrayed as the same civil rights struggle that ended segregation of the black community, and they refuse to stand with the Democrats on abortion on demand.

This is why it is said “they cling to religion”.

The disaffected black voters may not side with the conservative Republican but they may stay home altogether (necessitating “knock and drag” efforts where by thugs come knocking on your door upwards of 3 times on election day to intimidate minorities to go to the polls. You’d better have a real good answer come the third time some thug stands in your doorway and asks “why won’t you go vote today?”.


31 posted on 05/26/2008 9:16:50 AM PDT by weegee (We cant keep our homes on 72 at all times & just expect that other countries are going to say OK -BO)
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To: Octar
Just what race is this guy anyway?

Barack Hussein OBAMA

bn: 4 August 1961 Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii

Father:Barack Hussein OBAMA, Sr.

1936-1982

of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya

Father: Hussein Onyango OBAMA

1895-1979

Father::Obama bn: Kendu Bay, Kenya
Mother:Nyaoke
Mother:Akumu Father:
Mother:

Mother:Ann DUNHAM

1982-1995

of Wichita, Kansas

married in 1960 in Hawaii

Father:Stanley Armour DUNHAM

1918- 1992

Father:Ralph Waldo Emerson DUNHAM

1894-1970 Kansas

Mother: Ruth Lucille ARMOUR

1900-1926 Illinois

Mother:Madelyn Lee PAYNE

bn:1922

Father:Rolla Charles PAYNE

1892-1968 Kansas

Mother:Leona MCCURRY

about 1897 Kansas.

First Generation:

Center of the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was enrolled as a foreign student. When Barack Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father moved to Connecticut to continue his education before returning to Kenya.

When Obama was six, his mother married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian oil manager. In 1967, when Soetoro's student visa was revoked because of political unrest in Indonesia, Dunham and Barack, then in first grade, accompanied him to Jakarta, Indonesia. Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro was born after the family moved to Indonesia. Four years later she sent him back to the United States to live with his maternal grandmother.

Barack Obama graduated from Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he met his future wife, Michelle Robinson. They have two daughters, Malia and Sasha.

Second Generation (Parents):

2. Barack Hussein OBAMA Sr. was born in 1936 in Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya and died in a car crash in Nairobi, Kenya in 1982, leaving three wives, six sons and a daughter. All but one of his children live in Britain or the United States. One of the brothers died in 1984. He is buried in the village of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya.

3. Stanley Ann DUNHAM was born on 1982 in Wichita, Kansas and died 7 November 1995 of ovarian cancer.

Barack Hussein OBAMA Sr. and Stanley Ann DUNHAM were married in 1960 in Hawaii and had the following children:

1 i. Barack Hussein OBAMA, Jr.

Third Generation (Grandparents):

4. Hussein Onyango OBAMA was born about 1895 and died in 1979. Before settling down to work as a cook for missionaries in Nairobi he was a traveler. Recruited to fight for colonial power England in World War I, he visited Europe and India, and afterward lived for a time in Zanzibar, where he converted from Christianity to Islam, family members said.

5. Akumu

Hussein Onyango OBAMA had several wives. His first wife was Helima, with whom he had no children. Second, he married Akuma and they had the following children:

i. Sarah OBAMA

1. ii. Barack Hussein OBAMA, Sr.

iii. Auma OBAMA

Onyango's third wife was Sarah, the one often referred to by Barack as his "grandmother." She was the primary caregiver for Barack OBAMA Sr. after his mother, Akuma, left the family when her children were still young.

6. Stanley Armour DUNHAM was born on 23 March 1918 in Kansas and died 8 February 1992 in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is buried in Punchbowl National Cemetery, Honolulu, Hawaii.

7. Madelyn Lee PAYNE was born in 1922 in Wichita, Kansas. She currently lives in Oahu, Hawaii.

Stanley Armour DUNHAM and Madelyn Lee PAYNE were married on 5 May 1940, and had the following children:

3. i. Stanley Ann DUNHAM

Next Great Grandparents of Barack Obama

Fourth Generation (Great Grandparents):

8. Obama was born in Kendu Bay, Kenya

9. Nyaoke

Obama had four wives, one of whom was Nyaoke. She fathered many children, of whom Onyango was the fifth son.

12. Ralph Waldo Emerson DUNHAM was born 24 December 1894 in Argonia, Sumner County, Kansas and died 4 October 1970 in Wichita, Sedgwick, Kansas.

13. Ruth Lucille ARMOUR was born in 1900 in Illinois and died (by suicide) on 25 November 1926 in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas.

Ralph DUNHAM and Ruth ARMOUR were married on 3 October 1915 in Wichita, Sedgwick County, Kansas and had the following children:

i. Ralph Emerson DUNHAM, Jr., born 29 August 1916 (spouse Elizabeth Smith)

6. ii. Stanley Armour DUNHAM

The family is found living with Ruth's parents in the 1920 federal census of Sedgwick County, Kansas. In 1930, Ralph Jr. and Stanley are with their maternal grandparents in Butler County, Kansas, while their father, Ralph Sr. was enumerated with his parents in Sedgwick County, Kansas.

14. Rolla Charles PAYNE was born 23 August 1892 in Olathe, Johnson County, Kansas and died in Kansas in October 1968.

15. Leona MCCURRY was born about May 1897 in Kansas.

Rolla Charles PAYNE and Leona MCCURRY married in Kansas about 1922 and had the following children:

1. i. Madelyn PAYNE

ii. Charles W. PAYNE born about 1924.

iii. Arlene PAYNE born about 1926.

Next Fifth Generation (Great Great Grandparents)

32 posted on 05/26/2008 11:13:02 AM PDT by antonia ("Information is terrain and someone will occupy it.")
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