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Dump McCain Website Advocates New GOP Nominee
http://www.dumpmccain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=25 ^ | May 26th, 2008 | Dump McCain Website

Posted on 05/26/2008 2:37:19 PM PDT by GravityFree

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To: SoCalPol
If we don’t win the war, it make no difference who votes what on economic issues.

When we're flooded with tens of millios of new unskilled, uneducated new citizens, it won't matter about the war, the economy, or anything. We'll be toast.
201 posted on 05/26/2008 8:47:27 PM PDT by CottonBall (It's time to light the torches and convene on Washington!)
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To: GravityFree
All I’m saying is that while Obama and Hillary are nonstop flights to the same destination John McCain is the exact same airline to the same place with a brief layover in purgatory. Personally, I think we should be traveling in a different direction on another airline with better management

Excellent analogy.
202 posted on 05/26/2008 8:48:14 PM PDT by CottonBall (It's time to light the torches and convene on Washington!)
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To: Oztrich Boy

You appear to be CORRECT. If I remember the narration of this correctly McCain’s plane is the one that gets enveloped in flames first and there appears to be NO aircraft behind it.
Here’s the URL to the video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I

THANKS FOR THE CORRECTION !!! that’s one more conspiracy theory shot down. I’m not nearly as interested in being PERSONALLY CORRECT as I am in making sure that the correct information is out there for every one to base their decisions on, THANKS AGAIN ! ! !


203 posted on 05/26/2008 8:49:03 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: bcsco
WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO TO PROMOTE AND ADVANCE CONSERVATIVE VALUES IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

He'll do what he's always done - try to destroy conservatives and conservatism. And all his liberal policies will be blamed on him being a conservative by the MSM, tarnishing the conservatives left in Congress.

I'd sooner vote for my cat for pres. I'm sure she'd do a better job.
204 posted on 05/26/2008 8:51:46 PM PDT by CottonBall (It's time to light the torches and convene on Washington!)
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To: GravityFree

Ok then how about “OBAMA, booga booga booga!”


205 posted on 05/26/2008 9:08:07 PM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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To: ZULU

So you admit there is only negligible difference between the two socialists.


206 posted on 05/26/2008 9:09:47 PM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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To: rtbwood

Listen, I agree with everything you’re saying about Obama. He doesn’t have the qualifications to be on the city council, much less the US Senate, even less, the Presidency.

I simply asked that you put a check on the word “uppity”. In case you’re not aware of it, that term has historically been thrown derogatorily at blacks.


207 posted on 05/26/2008 9:11:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ZULU

I don’t want either socialist elected this year, so no matter who loses, I’ll be happy.


208 posted on 05/26/2008 9:12:01 PM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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To: apocalypto

I’ve got to say, that with the exception of some very few die-hard McCainiacs, I’ve been hearing nothing but moans and groans about him from our side since he became the presumptive Republican nominee.

I’m less than expert at these things, but it seems to me that if enough Americans expressed to the Republican party that they choose a different standard bearer, that they’d have to listen.

In essence, I just don’t see why the citizens of the nation can’t find a way to force a replacement of McCain before the general election.


209 posted on 05/26/2008 9:17:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Grunthor

The reason we are WHERE we are today is that at some point in time the RNC decided to increase it’s voter base by moving to the center instead of becoming an effective advocate of conservative principles. They basically took the attitude of “where is the conservative base going to go . . . to the democrats ???” Bob Dole was nothing more than Tip O’Neill’s tax collector. What’s amazing to me is that every time conservatism has an effective advocate it knocks the socks off of liberalism, witness Reagan’s ‘80 & ‘84 election campaigns and the Congressional elections of ‘94.


210 posted on 05/26/2008 9:19:38 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Windflier

Hear hear . . . . . . . well said ! ! !


211 posted on 05/26/2008 9:21:44 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: CottonBall

*When we’re flooded with tens of millios of new unskilled, uneducated*

We have been for the past decades, they are called high school grads and a large percent of college grads.


212 posted on 05/26/2008 9:27:59 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: GravityFree

Boy, do I ever hear ya.

It just seems ludicrous to me that nearly every conservative, and most Republicans are sickened by McCain, yet we are all just going to stand around and let it happen?

Crikey, this could be the second loss by Dole for all we know. Couldn’t come at a worse time in history, either.

I don’t know, maybe we ought to start throwing some ideas up on the wall and see what sticks. Possibly start an online “people’s vote” where folks could register their choice for President.

Start off with an open period, where anyone’s name can be tossed in the ring for consideration. Close that after a pre-determined length of time and tally up the list of the top ten. Then start the voting process.

Let the vote run for a week, then pick the winner from that. Do what we can to mobilize the “voters” to bombard the Republican party with its demands that they nominate the “people’s choice” for president at their convention.

Naturally, that’s just a rough idea, but you get the drift. I just think that with so many dis-satisfied Republicans voicing their disappointment over McCain on every conservative forum, there ought to be something that can be done. The people clearly do not support McCain in anything approaching widespread acceptance or agreement.


213 posted on 05/26/2008 9:31:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; zencat

You keep right on thinking that way and start talking to all of your friends. The internet has democratized many things and I have the deep seated suspicion that party politics is about to be added to that list. The present system of rewarding the senior party warhorse with a run for POTUS and expecting all of the party members to fall in line lock step behind him regardless of his voting record is at or near it’s end and the RNC has until Tuesday November 4th to figure it our or be left in the dust bin of history. It’s amazing how they can be so blind to what’s about to befall them ! ! !


214 posted on 05/26/2008 9:37:42 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: Windflier

I can’t wait for news of John having to “tap” Cindy for some of her “beer money” to break ! ! !


215 posted on 05/26/2008 9:49:19 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: All

What part of John McCain do so-called Conservatives not get?
McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Edwards — among other socialist, anti-speech, open-borders, enviro-Marxist measures he’s co-sponsored with the hardcore left of the Democratic Party over the years.

If Il Duce had served with him in the United States Senate, there would be McCain-Mussolini.

The moment Mitt Romney “suspended” his campaign and McCain became inevitable, the squawking began: “You mean you’d actually prefer Hillary or Obama (judges)? At least McCain is pro-life (judges). He’s a war hero who’ll ably lead us in the War on Terrorism (judges). Did we mention that he’ll appoint conservative judges?”

Before the chorus of amnesiac Chicken Littles drowns out the voices of reason, here are just a few of the many reasons why conservatives should sever their right hands at the wrist before they pull the McCain lever in November:

1. Immigration – He’s not just pro-open borders, he’s Senor Amnesty – co-sponsor of McCain-Kennedy, which would have legalized 15 million illegal aliens, allowed them to bring in tens of millions of their mooching relatives (including the elderly and infirm), given them credit for past Social Security contributions, etc. The Heritage Foundation’s Robert Rector said McCain-Kennedy would have constituted the largest expansion of the welfare state in U.S. history (at an estimated cost of $2.6 trillion). A Republican who served with McNasty in the Senate said he was forever haranguing his GOP colleagues about being perceived as “xenophobes” for not supporting amnesty. At CPAC, he told conservatives he’s heard us. He’ll secure the borders first, then push amnesty – which, of course, will negate anything he does at the border. Build it (a suicidal welfare state that embraces alien intruders), and a fence won’t keep them out.

2. Multiculturalism – If his advocacy of open borders wasn’t enough, McCain has also opposed official English and supported bi-lingual education (two more issues where he’s out-of-step with the overwhelming majority of his countrymen). McCain even voted for an amendment that would have codified Clinton’s Executive Order 13166, requiring recipients of federal funding, like hospitals, to provide translation services in any language requested. (When it comes to pandering, cost is no object.) No wonder he’s a hero to LULAC (the separatist League of United Latin American Citizens), Geraldo Rivera and Juan Hernandez (his Hispanic outreach director, who says he’d like 7th. generation Mexican-Americans to think of themselves as Mexicans first). Look for President McCain to make Cinco de Mayo a national holiday, give his inaugural address in Arabic and light an annual Kwanza whatever on the White House lawn.

3. Enviro-Marxism – McCain’s supporters think he’s just the man to lead America in the War on Terrorism. What’s the principal weapon of terrorist states? Oil. What does McCain want to keep America from producing more of? Oil. In 2003, McCain was one of only 6 Republican senators to vote against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. For McCain, keeping America dependent on Middle Eastern oil is a small price to pay to make the caribou comfortable. He’s also the proud co-sponsor of McCain-Lieberman – a $660 billion monument to the myth of man-made global warming (an industry-killing cap on CO2 emissions), which would annihilate tens of thousands of American jobs and make us far less competitive. By what twisted logic does open borders, crippling U.S. industry and energy dependence equal national security?

4. Class Warfare – In the recent debate at the Reagan Library, McCain called Romney a “manager for profits” (would he prefer a businessman who managed for losses?) who has “laid people off” – thus demonstrating how little the Senator understands the market economy. Jobs aren’t permanent — except for those who’ve served in the Senate for 21 years — and sometimes they have to disappear so others can be created. In 2001, McCain was one of only two Republican Senators to vote against the Bush tax cuts. In 2003, he was one of only three. Now, he says it’s because there weren’t matching spending cuts. Then he called them “tax cuts for the rich.” This comes from a man who never held a private-sector job and made his money the old-fashioned way – by marrying an heiress whose father subsidized his early campaigns.

5. Abortion – McCain’s vaunted pro-life voting record reflects the views of his Arizona constituents more than any real commitment. He supports subsidies for embryonic stem-cell research. In 2000, he told the San Francisco Examiner that “certainly in the short term, even in the long-term I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade.” (He later reversed himself under pro-life pressure.) Most critics view McCain-Feingold as an assault on the First Amendment, which it certainly is. It’s also one of the most destructive anti-life measures ever enacted by Congress. Under this so-called Campaign Finance Reform, a pro-life group can’t run ads criticizing the record of a pro-abortion legislator within 60 days of a general election or 30 days of a primary. Needless to say, there’s no similar gag-rule for McCain’s buddies in the mainstream media. Elsewhere on the family-values front, McCain voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. He says it’s because he wants states to decide the definition of marriage (the only instance in which he’s on record favoring federalism), which is the same as saying he wants activist judges to decide.

6. Judicial Nominations – Though McCain denies it, columnist Robert Novak swears the frontrunner told him prior to confirmation of Justice Samuel Alito that the nominee was too conservative, and that he preferred those who “didn’t wear their conservatism on their sleeve” (like Sandra Day O’Connor and Anthony Kennedy?). McCain was also part of the Gang of 14 which prevented a rules change that would have stopped unconstitutional filibusters on judicial nominations. Former New Hampshire Senator Warren Rudman was responsible for the Supreme Court nomination of David Souter — the most disastrous Republican appointment since Earl Warren. (The play was Rudman to then-Chief of Staff John Sununu to Bush Sr.) Rudman has a prominent role in McCain’s campaign. Rudman could be President McCain’s Attorney General, giving him more say on judicial nominations than anyone other than the president. In his 1996 book, Rudman wrote that Christian conservatives include in their ranks “enough anti-abortion zealots, would-be censors, homophobes, bigots and latter-day Elmer Gantrys to discredit any party that is unwise enough” to align itself with them. With Warren Rudman at his side, it’s anyone’s guess whether McCain’s Supreme Court picks would be appreciably better than Clinton’s or Obama’s...

1. War on Terrorism – We’ve already noted McCain’s support for energy dependence and his crusade for open borders. (Besides all of the rapists, drug-dealers and gang members coming across our Southern border, terrorists are also infiltrating the United States due to the de facto surrender of national sovereignty.) McCain wants to close Guantanamo and give terrorists the same rights as enemy combatants. He opposes tough interrogation techniques that leave no scars, but have elicited the intelligence that has saved American lives. (Personally, I’d use thumbscrews and the iron maiden on this s*****.) A McCain anti-terrorism policy is more likely to be shaped by his friends at the ACLU and The New York Times than by the Center for Security Policy.

2. McPsycho – McCain is famous for going postal on his Republican colleagues — dropping the F-word, calling them f-—ing idiots and worse. His dangerous inability to control his temper comes from a God-complex and an ingrained contempt for other human beings. One of his colleagues commented, “I don’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.” Given his mental state, McCain could end up nuking Terre Haute instead of Tehran.

3. Reaching across the aisle – This is media-speak for a Republican sell-out who conspires with the left. McCain doesn’t reach across the aisle – he leaps. Former Senator Rick Santorum discloses: “The bottom line is that I served 12 years with him (McCain), 6 years in the United States Senate as a leader, one of the leaders of the Senate – the number-3 leader – who had the responsibility of trying to put together the conservative agenda, and at almost every turn on domestic policy, John McCain was not only against us, but leading the charge on the other side.” Republican presidents who are unsure of themselves too often try to placate the other party. For McCain, working with the left is his natural inclination. He’ll turn to the Kennedys, Feingolds and Liebermans not as a last resort, but as a first.

4. Rally or Roll-Over — If a Democrat takes the oath of office next January, Congressional Republicans will find their principles again. From 1993 to 1995, without a majority in either House, Republicans fought Bill Clinton to a legislative standstill. They went on to win the House and Senate in the 1994 election — for the first time in 40 years – and to hold both for a decade. If McCain is elected, it will be roll-over time for Congressional Republicans – on taxes, regulation, environmentalism, speech-suppression, internationalism, multiculturalism, civil liberties for terrorists and open-borders. (When it comes to arm-twisting, Captain Queeg would make Bush look like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.) This time, instead of losing power for a few years, the party could be permanently discredited.

Ultimately, all of this is academic. McCain’s chances of becoming the next president are none – and none. Since 1964, Republicans have won 7 of 10 presidential elections. They lost in 1976, 1992 and 1996. Each time, the party was saddled with a standard-bearer – Ford, Bush ’41, Dole – that a large part of the base couldn’t stand.
The American people are basically conservative. At some point, the Democrats always give away the game – expose themselves as the party of socialism, pacifism, racial-pandering and treason. They only win when Republicans sound an uncertain trumpet. McCain is a kazoo played by an asthmatic.

McCain is also old, abrasive and unlovable. (It was said of Bob Dole, another war hero, that he couldn’t sell beer on a troop ship. McCain couldn’t give it away.) Once the Democrats pick their nominee, McCain’s media cheerleaders will pack up their pompoms and move to the other side of the field.

President Bush – he of “compassionate conservatism,” mega-spending hikes and Hamas statehood– has just announced that John McCain is a “true conservative.”

I rest my case.


216 posted on 05/26/2008 9:59:52 PM PDT by SCORPIO3
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To: GravityFree
You keep right on thinking that way and start talking to all of your friends. The internet has democratized many things and I have the deep seated suspicion that party politics is about to be added to that list.

Copy That.

I keep reading about how Obama's campaign has harnessed the power of social networking via the internet, and has created a new campaigning paradigm.

Well, what the Sam Hill's the matter with us?

I'm going to keep bringing this idea up in conversations about McCain. An sound idea, spread far and wide is really all it takes to start any movement. Especially when the fire's already been lit.

217 posted on 05/26/2008 10:03:56 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SCORPIO3

Again I say . . .Hear Hear . . .Well Said ! ! !


218 posted on 05/26/2008 10:06:21 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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To: GravityFree
I can’t wait for news of John having to “tap” Cindy for some of her “beer money” to break ! ! !

Lemme see here...

A Senator comes into a bar and tells the barkeep that he's running for president. He has a rich heiress wife, he's a Viet Nam vet, defaults to the left, is as exciting to listen to as paint drying.....stop me if you've heard this one before...

219 posted on 05/26/2008 10:09:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SCORPIO3

Ohhh . . . just d**n

“They ( democrats ) only win when Republicans sound an uncertain trumpet. McCain is a kazoo played by an asthmatic”

ROFLMAO . . . . . . . If you came up with that one on your own you need to become a professional speech writer for whoever becomes the next “CONSERVATIVE” nominee ! ! !


220 posted on 05/26/2008 10:11:03 PM PDT by GravityFree (Death is not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but only the end of the beginning.)
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