Obama: No promise of Ahmadinejad talks

presstv.ir ^ | 05/27/08 | presstv.ir

[TornadoAlley3]

Democrat Barack Obama says he is willing to engage Tehran but the time of a meeting with Iran's president depends on who wields power.

In a Monday campaign event in New Mexico, the Democratic frontrunner said Iran's presidential elections in 2009 would be a factor in considering the timing of any meetings.

"There is no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad before we know that he was actually in power," said Obama.

The Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has been targeted by western politicians and media for condemning Israeli regime's atrocities during 60 years of occupation of the Palestinian lands.

"I think they are pursuing weapons. But that would be a topic of discussion and I would present evidence that would indicate to them there are other means of developing civilian nuclear capacity," added the 46-year-old Illinois senator.

Obama's aides claim there would be extensive staff-level preparations before the Democrats directly engage with presidents of Iran, Syria, Cuba and Venezuela - countries which the White House considers foes.

This is while Obama, who is vying to face presumptive Republican nominee Senator John McCain in November election, had previously vowed there would be no 'preconditions' for potential presidential meetings with Iran.

Earlier this month, the 71-year-old McCain charged Obama with having the intentions of becoming friends with the Iranian government.

[frankjr]

{{”There is no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad before we know that he was actually in power,” said Obama.}}

Huh?

((Obama’s aides claim there would be extensive staff-level preparations before the Democrats directly engage with presidents of...}}

Well that sounds like a great plan: preparations. And then after Iran nukes Israel, what? A stern letter?

[skr]

Reality forces Plan B(ackpeddling).

[ETL]

From National Public Radio (NPR):
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764

"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.worldthreats.com/latin_america/Iran-Chavez%20Alliance.htm

From the Russian News and Information Agency:
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html

From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html

"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."

_____________________________________________________________

Obama Promises to Dismantle Our Armed Forces
by Robert Maginnis
Posted 04/10/2008 ET

(Mr. Maginnis is a retired Army lieutenant colonel, a national security and foreign affairs analyst for radio and television and a senior strategist with the U.S. Army)

YouTube has an undated 52-second clip of Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barrack Obama outlining his plans for America’s national defense. Obama’s presentation demonstrates either total naivete about important national security programs or he is just pandering for votes among the extreme left.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=25942

Note: Here is the *original* youtube video from the Obama camp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o84PE871BE

Human Events uses this poor quality copy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

From "45 Communist Goals":
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963:

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

'Goals' 4-45 can be found here or at many other sites through a web search for "45 goals":
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

[cookcounty]

""There is no reason why we would necessarily meet with Ahmadinejad before we know that he was actually in power," said Obama."

After all, he might be assassinated before Inauguration Day, right?

Obama is soooo out of his depth.

[G8 Diplomat]

Democrat Barack Obama says he is willing to engage Tehran but the time of a meeting with Iran's president depends on who wields power.

Yo Obama...remember it's Khamenei who choses the candidates, the elections are just a smokescreen to give the aura of free elections in Iran. And the Ayatollah will obviously pick a hardliner, i.e. someone who hates the West. Ahmadinejad could very well get re-"elected", or it could be Khatami or Rafsanjani again. The former comes off as a moderate but that's Iran's tactic at fooling the world--look, we elected a moderate president, we're friendly nation now? And the latter is often mistakenly portrayed as a moderate in the Western media. The point is, whoever is chosen to be the next president of Iran won't be a friend of the US.

[Judith Anne]

FTA:

The Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has been targeted by western politicians and media for condemning Israeli regime's atrocities during 60 years of occupation of the Palestinian lands.

WHAT??????

[celtic gal]

Flip flop

[llandres]

“And then after Iran nukes Israel, what? A stern letter?”

So horrific an image, there are no words.

[boycott]

I wish he’d make up his mind. I guess he’s realizing how silly his earlier suggestions were.

[GloriaJane]

Either Obama stuck his finger up in the air to see which way the wind is blowing, or someone in his campaign told him he should come up with a better idea then “no preconditions”.

The man clearly stuck his foot in his mouth when he made that “no preconditions” dumb statement in the first place. And to me he just keeps looking more and more like someone stumbling around in the dark looking for a way out of the mess he created for himself.

Would have been soooo much easier to just say, “Ops! dumb me, I misspoke.” At least if he had done that he wouldn't be looking like a fish out of water who's flopping around on the beach looking for someone to throw his dumb butt back in.

[JimSEA]

condemning Israeli regime's atrocities during 60 years of occupation of the Palestinian lands.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Sends chills up your spine doesn't it. The Muslims have won the war for the hearts and minds of "progressives" everywhere. Another Holocaust is inevitable unless both America and Israel get there heads back where they should be.

[Judith Anne]

Very chilling. What’s even worse, is, it’s just thrown out there, as if it is something which everyone “knows” and which is unquestioned.

[llandres]

“The point is, whoever is chosen to be the next president of Iran won’t be a friend of the US.”

Never has been, never will be. The Shah (Reza-Pahlavi) WAS a friend of the US, but we have Jimmy Carter to thank for ending that, and we’ve had a growing, nihilistic nightmare ever since.

[1035rep]

Unbelievable! To think the liberals are going to try and cram this fool into the White House.

[Octar]

This yutz is accustomed to wading successfully in the kiddie pool. He is about to enter the deep end of the grown-up pool.

Delicious.

[Octar]

This yutz is accustomed to wading successfully in the kiddie pool. He is about to enter the deep end of the grown-up pool.

Delicious.

[PhilDragoo]

[Liberty 275]

flippety floppety said hussein rabbit.

[TigersEye]

"I think they are pursuing weapons. But that would be a topic of discussion and I would present evidence that would indicate to them there are other means of developing civilian nuclear capacity," added the 46-year-old Illinois senator.

What? Is that a flip-flop in two consecutive sentences? John F'n Kerry move over. Obama's takin' your title.