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Granholm's Tax Warning (Michigan's Tax Increase Fails to Deliver)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 28 May 2008 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 05/28/2008 5:45:35 AM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: MinuteGal

Is George Will alive? Are you sure?


21 posted on 05/28/2008 6:43:39 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: unixfox

So when do you figure this nut will pass a law making it illegal to leave the state? Or even better, say that all former Michigan residents and business owners must pay taxes from their new locations for a period of ten years.


22 posted on 05/28/2008 6:44:11 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: shrinkermd

We’re being “blown away” as she promised in her campaign.


23 posted on 05/28/2008 6:56:52 AM PDT by mcshot (Bitterly Loving God, Family, and Guns more then ever. And greatly missing President Reagan)
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To: litehaus

[Luv those ads on TV telling all]

Wasn’t he the star of “Dumb & Dumber”? Hmmmm


24 posted on 05/28/2008 6:59:45 AM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: dbacks

If you do leave the state and find work elsewhere and leave a house behind, they raise the taxes because you are a non-reisident. So it is really tough to leave.
A liberal friend who lives in Michigan agreed with the tax increase. He said tough times called for tough measures..I now remind him that it isn’t working..and they are still going down the drain.
They are all hoping the VW will give them the nod for the new plant..but it is unlikely. Who wants to build a factory in a union shop state with a bad history of labor relations.


25 posted on 05/28/2008 7:08:00 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: unixfox
Socialists never learn.

They don't have to so long as there are people who continue to vote for them.

26 posted on 05/28/2008 7:11:17 AM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: unixfox

From what I have experienced, you put these examples in front of them (socialists), showing how their policies fail every time,

and they either do not believe the data, or just put their hand in front of their face and refuse to discuss it further.

They have this paradigm that “socialism HAS to work”. Kind of like the Materialist vs Creationist viewpoints. Every observation is made from a basic belief in a starting point.


27 posted on 05/28/2008 7:14:19 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Someone already tried that.

It’s a basic sociocommie move. When people respond to the perverse incentives that you impose in a way that you don’t like, impose MORE perverse incentives.

The state that tried that was “surprised” when NO new businesses moved into the state, and when people stopped moving to their state.

Same as the socialist countries making it nearly impossible to fire someone - businesses refuse to hire anyone on those terms.


28 posted on 05/28/2008 7:17:36 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Oldexpat

There is no way they’ll get the VW plant.

No business person is going to look at the punative business laws and think that it would be a good idea to put one there.


29 posted on 05/28/2008 7:18:45 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: shrinkermd; grellis

OUTSTANDING editorial on Grantheft (don’t forget the RINOS/ENABLERS in Michigan). Thanks for posting.

Ping.


30 posted on 05/28/2008 7:20:34 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Melchior
Last I heard, Mr. Exciting was still (and interminably) occupying the Washington-ComPost-Token-Conservative chair on "This Weak with George Steponallofus."

His brand of intellectual conservatism has never rocked the earth unlike Bill Buckley's......who wrote and talked in understandable, albeit high falutin', words that created interest outside the friendly confines of New York and DC.

Ever notice how liberal TV program producers will retain blah conservative pundits for years to occupy token seats on their network lineups? Will and that other bow-tied token, Tucker Carlson, fill spots for which evidently no other exciting, erudite conservative could or can be found.

I just checked Yahoo and found that Tucker finally got the axe. I didn't know that because I never watched his show. Maybe he was getting too liberal for the show's liberal producers, LOL.

Leni

31 posted on 05/28/2008 7:22:01 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Foot Soldier in FR's Light Verse Brigade)
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To: shrinkermd
"The tax hikes have done nothing but accelerate the departures of families and businesses."

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money." -- Maggie Thatcher

32 posted on 05/28/2008 7:28:07 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: unixfox
Socialists never learn.

They seem mystified by Cause and Effect. Apparently, the never see the connection.

33 posted on 05/28/2008 7:44:50 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: wequalswinner
Seriously, I believe this puts Michigan ripe for the picking for the GOP come November. IF, and that’s a big if, the voters in Michigan can get their heads out of their collective ass.

The big influencers in Michigan, other than the media of course, are minorities and labor unions. What chance does even a McCain have there?

34 posted on 05/28/2008 7:50:17 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; unixfox
Socialists never learn.

They seem mystified by Cause and Effect. Apparently, the never see the connection.

And if they do learn, they never concede error or change opinion. Thus cognitive dissonance, the hallmark of neoliberals, is born.

35 posted on 05/28/2008 7:51:17 AM PDT by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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To: shrinkermd
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36 posted on 05/28/2008 7:52:46 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: shrinkermd

The Jeff Daniels commercials aren’t helping!?


37 posted on 05/28/2008 7:52:48 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
The big influencers in Michigan, other than the media of course, are minorities and labor unions.

Retirees in the north, too.

38 posted on 05/28/2008 7:52:55 AM PDT by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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To: NonValueAdded

It should make sense.

In the classic case, if the bus company is charging too much to ride, and they drop the price, they will in the long run increase the number of passengers and increase their revenues.

The only way to increase revenue by increasing cost is if you are very underpriced to begin with so that legitimate costs gobble up the available revenue. An increase in that climate will increase revenues IF it doesn’t run away too many customers.


39 posted on 05/28/2008 7:53:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: shrinkermd
My erstwhile home State.

This is the Detroitification of Michigan.

Detroit peaked in 1951 when it had the highest paid population in the country. Population was 1.8 Million and life was good.

They taxed production and subsidized unemployment, drug addiction and having a child out of wedlock.

Anything you reward you will get more of, anything you tax you will get less.

40 posted on 05/28/2008 7:59:43 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Just a typical white guy: clinging to my guns, my religion, and my bigotry...)
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