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Foes, in court, seek to delay gay marriages
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/29/8 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 05/30/2008 8:02:30 AM PDT by SmithL

Conservative groups that want the state Supreme Court to delay same-sex marriages in California until voters decide whether to reinstate a ban on those marriages in November ran into opposition Thursday from Attorney General Jerry Brown, whose office defended the ban in court.

A week after the 4-3 ruling striking down the law that allowed only opposite-sex couples to marry, Brown's office urged the court to let its ruling take effect in 30 days, as scheduled, despite the possibility that it would be undone later by a ballot measure.

"It is time for these proceedings to end," said Christopher Krueger, a senior assistant attorney general, in a court filing. Now that the court has decided that gay and lesbian couples have the right to marry, he said, they are entitled to "an effective declaration of their constitutional rights, one that is implemented by government without unjustified delay."

Under the current schedule, county clerks' offices across the state will start issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples on June 17. But conservative religious and legal organizations have asked the court to reconsider the ruling and suspend its effect until the Nov. 3 election, when a state constitutional amendment to prohibit same-sex marriages is likely to be on the ballot.

"The people of California have a constitutional right to vote on marriage, and we trust the high court will respect the democratic process," said attorney Glen Lavy of the Alliance Defense Fund, which filed a request for a stay Wednesday on behalf of the Proposition 22 Legal Defense and Education Fund, sponsor of a previous ballot measure banning same-sex marriage.

Lavy's brief argued that allowing the ruling to take effect while the November measure is pending would risk legal havoc and uncertainty about the status of marriages performed before Nov. 3.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: activistjudges; adf; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; lawsuit; samesexmarriage; sanfranciscovalues

1 posted on 05/30/2008 8:02:31 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
and we trust the high court will respect the democratic process,"

If they respected it, they wouldn't have handed down the ruling in the first place.

2 posted on 05/30/2008 8:09:16 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

What democratic process? I thought all CA Supreme & other court judges had to be judicial fascists.


3 posted on 05/30/2008 8:11:57 AM PDT by KhanKrum (That's pretty bold talk for a one eyed fat man. Fill your hand you son of a b...h!)
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To: SmithL

The prudent thing to do, of course, would be to delay the implementation until after the vote in November, because otherwise, the status of any marriages performed between June and November would be questionable.

Of course, by going forward with it, gays from other states will be able to get married here and go back to their own states and challenge the laws, causing a SCOTUS showdown, which is pretty much what they want.

Unfortunately, parties forget that when you push to the Supreme Court, you have to live with their decision - just ask the University of California, who thought they had a winner of an argument in Bakke.


4 posted on 05/30/2008 8:13:00 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: SmithL

Let’s see a lawyer presents a halfhearted week case and then attempts to suppress the effects of his failure - hmmm maybe his goal was to put on the dog and pony show, tricking the voters, but assuring the advancement of the homo-jihad.


5 posted on 05/30/2008 8:17:53 AM PDT by DaveyB (Either we will be ruled by God or by-god we will be ruled - Ben Franklin)
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To: SmithL

To all those who denied there was any need for a Constitutional Amendment, here is the proof. It is sad, but true.


6 posted on 05/30/2008 8:25:10 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right

Just who in the heck do these damn voters think they are? Getting in the way of the leftist/homosexual agenda. Disgraceful!


7 posted on 05/30/2008 8:32:38 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: SmithL
This ruling was made by the judges knowing full well that the traditional marriage only ballot initiative was gathering the signatures needed to put it up in November, which makes the ruling all the more tyrannical. The activist judges didn't abide by the law and Prop. 22 and they planned that with the marriages taking place before November the cat would be well out of the bag and it would create another legal fiasco by having to deal with that issue. (Plus, the pro-homosexual propaganda machine will go into hyper drive showing all the couples who will now have to have their “marriages” annulled because of “the bigots”.)

In the mean time, gays from other states as well as California will be marrying in CA and going back to challenge the laws in their own states.

What the California Supreme Court did was nothing short of tyrannical and the four judges should be thrown out on their behinds and their decision overturned, otherwise, the rule of law is null and void in this state.

8 posted on 05/30/2008 8:38:36 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: SmithL
If they respected the will of the people, the California Supremes wouldn't have overturned Proposition 22 in the first place.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 05/30/2008 8:42:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Always Right
“To all those who denied there was any need for a Constitutional Amendment, here is the proof. It is sad, but true.”

Years ago, there was a push to put pressure on Congress. Many people kept saying “This is a state issue”. There was a small push to get Congress to amend the Constitution, but the truth of the matter is nobody saw it as an important enough issue. So, we end up with activist judges and politicians too afraid of the gay mafia to do what is right. In the end the states have no “rights” when activist judges decide what is best regardless of what the citizens vote on or desire.

10 posted on 05/30/2008 8:46:39 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: 444Flyer

Exactly right! Many politicians have said that they are agaisnt same-sex marriage, however, they see it as a state issue. Or sometimes, they say that regular statute laws already define marriage, so constitutional amendments at either state or federal levels aren’t necessary.

But as we see here, judges are willing to overturn specific laws defining marriage as one man / one woman. So that should prove to any fence sitting politicos that they can’t say there’s no need for a constitutional amendment on the subject because laws are already in place.


11 posted on 05/30/2008 8:56:10 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: 444Flyer
Years ago, there was a push to put pressure on Congress. Many people kept saying “This is a state issue.

Yeah, like John McCain.

12 posted on 05/30/2008 9:38:43 AM PDT by mngran2
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To: Always Right
To all those who denied there was any need for a Constitutional Amendment, here is the proof. It is sad, but true.

I've been for a Constitutional Amendment from day-one. It's long past time for the people to fight back against fascists in black robe thinking they can tell us how to run our own country.
13 posted on 05/30/2008 9:42:25 AM PDT by Antoninus (John 6:54)
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To: 444Flyer

arrest the creeps


14 posted on 05/30/2008 10:05:53 AM PDT by devistate one four (Nam 67-68)
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To: goldstategop

“If they respected the will of the people, the California Supremes wouldn’t have overturned Proposition 22 in the first place.”

I thought it was settled when Propisition 22 was passed...evidently not. What exactly did Prop 22 pass?


15 posted on 05/30/2008 11:32:30 AM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: AprilfromTexas

nothing according to the homo’s

the homo’s just don’t get it, no matter how many times they challenge this , no matter how many times they shout they are queer they just don’t understand that the public finds them disgusting and overturning the will of the people will only face them more anger


16 posted on 05/30/2008 1:30:27 PM PDT by manc (a normal natural marriage is between a man and a woman, MA has a perverted sham marriages)
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To: manc

It seems the rule of law only applies to conservatives and/or Republicans. The libs just don’t accept the premise of a law until it favors them and then they want to prosecute those who disagree with them to the fullest extent.
The bible says “...in the end times many will do what they think is right in their own eyes”...I think we’re there now.


17 posted on 05/30/2008 1:38:39 PM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: devistate one four

“arrest the creeps”

Best idea yet.


18 posted on 05/30/2008 1:51:29 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=One man+One woman! Vote to amend the California State Constitution this November.)
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To: AprilfromTexas

correct
ever remember a slogan , well libs always use slogans as they can’t think for themselves so they are told in short verses what to repeat and say

every vote should count

well the people did vote and it was ignored

people in massachusetts were not allowed to vote

the people in certain states will vote come Nov like in my state Florida but if it goes to the courts does all those signatures and votes not matter no more

This is the most disgusting thing I have ever known, yes homosexuals thinking they are being normal but also how libs and homosexuals are going against he will of the people.


19 posted on 05/30/2008 2:20:15 PM PDT by manc (a normal natural marriage is between a man and a woman, MA has a perverted sham marriages)
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To: manc

does it not say in the constitution a man and a woman
yet the libs and homo’s say now well it never said between so the founding fathers say homosexuals should get married

we all know what the founding fathers meant

I met a lib who told a homosexual that NH was gay friendly, and their motto was live free or die

when I told that lib that I doubt very much when the term was invented it meant two men having sex with each other, she replied o yes it does and did

libs and homosexuals are really in their own world and I would not lose one bit of sleep if MA and CA succeeded from the union infact all the north east with it.

I would give that new country 5 years and it would be ruined like all lib states and that is why people are leaving their hell hole, sadly they come to red states and try to make the red state like the blue one they left behind
idiots


20 posted on 05/30/2008 2:26:37 PM PDT by manc (a normal natural marriage is between a man and a woman, MA has a perverted sham marriages)
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