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Snag in deal to return Texas sect kids to parents
AP Via Yahoo ^ | 5/30/2008 | Michelle Roberts

Posted on 05/30/2008 5:34:10 PM PDT by festus

SAN ANGELO, Texas - A plan to begin reuniting parents with more than 400 children removed from a polygamist group's ranch has been thrown into doubt because a judge and the families are clashing over proposed restrictions.

Texas District Judge Barbara Walther has refused to sign an order restoring custody to the parents until they agree to more restrictions than state child-welfare officials have proposed.

Walther was directed by an appeals court to reverse her ruling last month putting all children from the Yearning For Zion Ranch into foster case. The Texas Supreme Court affirmed the appeals court's decision Thursday and rejected the state's argument that all the children were in immediate danger from what it said was a cycle of sexual abuse of teenage girls at the ranch.


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Good to see at least one judge in TX understands what needs to be done.
1 posted on 05/30/2008 5:34:10 PM PDT by festus
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Good to see at least one judge in TX understands what needs to be done.

Actually, six of them did...and this judge is ignoring them.

2 posted on 05/30/2008 5:36:01 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: festus

Two actually. An Appeals Court and the Supreme Court


3 posted on 05/30/2008 5:36:13 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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To: festus

Good for her!


4 posted on 05/30/2008 5:36:36 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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why? With your anarchy twist yesterday, we shouldn't have judges in this country since we shouldn't have laws in this country.
5 posted on 05/30/2008 5:37:55 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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To: festus

I posted this on another thread, but will post it here too:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080530/ts_nm/usa_polygamists_dc_2

(Snip...)

As part of that investigation, Texas officials on Friday obtained a DNA sample from Warren Jeffs, the leader of the breakaway Mormon sect.

Jeffs is in Arizona serving a prison sentence of 10 years to life for being an accomplice to rape by forcing a 14-year-old to marry her cousin.

“In the search warrant you will see that evidence was collected that Jeffs married four young girls,” said Jerry Strickland of the Texas Attorney General’s Office. “Two 12-year-olds, a 14-year-old and a 15-year-old. All of these marriages took place at the Yearning For Zion Ranch in Texas.”


6 posted on 05/30/2008 5:38:42 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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Good to see at least one judge in TX understands what needs to be done.

You mean by refusing to sign the order that overturned her decision that was subsequently upheld by the state supreme court? Is that what needs to be done?

7 posted on 05/30/2008 5:38:44 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: greatvikingone

No doubt..who the hell is the Texas supreme Court think they are anyways...

/s


8 posted on 05/30/2008 5:38:53 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: greatvikingone; P-Marlowe

The supporters of the heterosexual branch of NAMBLA will be along shortly ( actually have already started chiming in ) to declare that the polygamous child molesters are being unfairly harrassed and despite the fact that this group are not LDS its all driven by rabid LDS bigotry.

I have one in another thread claiming that Warren Jeffs was framed.


9 posted on 05/30/2008 5:39:07 PM PDT by festus (Tagline removed.)
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So if Jeffs is found by the DNA evidence to have fathered children with children................the lower couort judge probably has a pretty good point, but in my state, Department of Family Services is “God” that’s what I heard a DFS worker tell someone on her cell phone the othere4 day and there is “nothing” a lawyer can do........


10 posted on 05/30/2008 5:42:13 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: johniegrad

Actually she’ll sign it its the FLDS that refuse.

She wasn’t even mandated to return the kids immediately. The TX appeals ruling stopped short of that.


11 posted on 05/30/2008 5:45:17 PM PDT by festus (Tagline removed.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

And you sing “God Save the Queen”? Or do we break some laws for good reasons...?


12 posted on 05/30/2008 5:47:13 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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She wasn’t even mandated to return the kids immediately. The TX appeals ruling stopped short of that.

It was my understanding that there was a 10 day ceiling on returning the children.

13 posted on 05/30/2008 5:49:37 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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That’s a nonsensical reply


14 posted on 05/30/2008 5:53:15 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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To: festus

This judge is determined to take these kids away (the GOVERNMENT knows so much better) even though she has been slapped down once already


15 posted on 05/30/2008 5:54:32 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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Judge Walther needs to get out of this case now. She should turn over as much jurisdiction to the visiting judges as possible. Her continued presence in the case does not help the the kids, parents or the State.


16 posted on 05/30/2008 5:55:19 PM PDT by nomorelurker (keep flogging them till morale improves)
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I agree.

The stipulation I'd have a problem with is that the parents must attend parenting classes.

What makes the State think that they NEED parenting classes? And until the State proves otherwise, they've broken no laws requiring them.

17 posted on 05/30/2008 5:57:32 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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Texas District Judge Barbara Walther has refused to sign an order restoring custody to the parents until they agree to more restrictions than state child-welfare officials have proposed.

It would appear that this judge is cruisin'. Didn't like being slapped down for not comprehending a clear law, and takes it out on the appellants?

18 posted on 05/30/2008 6:00:07 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: festus

She will be hearing directly from the Texas Supreme Court in the next round.
It sounds as if the judge is getting advice from Janet “Waco” Reno.


19 posted on 05/30/2008 6:02:14 PM PDT by em2vn
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\Texas District Judge Barbara Walther has refused to sign an order restoring custody to the parents until they agree to more restrictions than state child-welfare officials have proposed.

Evidently she is about to get her hat handed to her again. Yea, she needs to just get out of the entire process NOW. I wonder if the superior courts will kick her out.

20 posted on 05/30/2008 6:04:55 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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