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Men prefer being solo over a bad marriage
Reuters via Yahoo News ^

Posted on 06/02/2008 7:10:15 AM PDT by Hildy

SYDNEY (Reuters Life!) - Bachelor Carl Weisman got fed up of being classified as a playboy, a loser or a commitment-phobe so he set out to find out exactly why he and a growing number of eligible men were steering clear of marriage.

Weisman, 49, conducted a survey of 1,533 heterosexual men to research a book aiming to give women an insight into why some smart, successful men opted to stay single -- and help lifelong bachelors understand why they are still the solo man at parties.

He concluded that most men were not afraid of marriage -- but they were afraid of a bad marriage.

"Men are 10 times more scared of marrying the wrong person than of never getting married at all," Weisman told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"This is the first generation of people who have grown up with bad divorces. People assume there is something wrong if you don't marry but these are men who have made a different choice and not given in to social pressures."

The release of his book "So Why Have You Never Been Married? - Ten Insights into Why He Hasn't Wed," comes amid a growing trend for more people to stay single, with less social or religious pressures on men -- and women -- to tie the knot.

Weisman said U.S. figures showed that in 1980 about 6 percent of men aged in their early 40s had never married but this number had now risen to 17 percent.

Weisman said his online survey found there are three groups of bachelors -- about 8 percent who never want to marry, 62 percent want to marry but of which half won't settle for anything less than perfection, and about 30 percent who are on the fence.

Four out of 10 bachelors did not want children compared to three out of 10 wanting to be a father. The rest were undecided.

But while 72 percent of respondents said they were not afraid of marriage, about half of them said the situation that scared them most was marrying the wrong person.

"It's so important to these men to get it right. My best advice to single women after bachelors is to be patient. If you're in a hurry to get married you'll be frustrated," he said.

Weisman also found that financial issues, both positive and negative, played a large part in men's fear of commitment.

"Those with little money said they would have nothing to offer a partner, with some suffering self-esteem issues and withdrawing from the dating pool," said Weisman, an engineer-turned-author with two books now published.

"While those who are financially sound were terrified what a bad divorce could do to them."

Weisman said his research blew away any idea that single men were unhappy.

"A compelling issue was how many of them had found contentment in a never-married life," he said. "They had created lives full of careers, friends and ambitions. It was not like they walk around all day worried about not being married."

For him, researching the book made him also look at himself -- and he ended up living with a girlfriend for the first time.

"Now we're looking at getting married. As I researched the book I found I was looking at men 10 years older than me and it was like looking into the future. If I didn't change, nothing would," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bachelors; genderwars; happiness; males; marriage; psychology; singleness; singles
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Although the title is stupid, I mean DUH....kind of interesting. I'm a middle-aged woman and I've seen enough to form the conclusion it must be very hard to be a man in today's dating world. Women are more difficult these days than ever before. They've been told now, from an early age, that their needs come first and that basically, men suck.

I think men are confused, as they should be. Too bad for everyone. When I was dating, I found it hard to meet that right guy. I found my soulmate in an older man...a different generation.

But here's the secret I tell my women friends when they ask me the secret to finding the right man for yourself. Women need to look very honestly (and that's hard for a woman to do) at themselves and assess what the top TWO most important thing she needs to be happy in life.

The older I get the more I see how downright selfish women can be...especially those who think they're not. We have unreal expectations and still, after all this time, a fairy tale image of what life should be and when life falls short, we take it out on the people we love. It's kinda sick, when you think about it.

1 posted on 06/02/2008 7:10:15 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

Reuters left off the number ONE accusation that is leveled at a middle aged man who is never been married.

Can anyone guess what that politically incorrect reason is?


2 posted on 06/02/2008 7:12:27 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Hildy; Froufrou
Men prefer being solo over a bad marriage

In other news, scientists reveal that the sky is, in fact, blue.
3 posted on 06/02/2008 7:13:21 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: Hildy

# Proverbs 21:9
Better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife.

# Proverbs 21:19
Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and ill-tempered wife.


4 posted on 06/02/2008 7:15:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Reuters left off the number ONE accusation that is leveled at a middle aged man who is never been married. Can anyone guess what that politically incorrect reason is?

Ummm ... That they were smarter than the rest of us? ;-)

5 posted on 06/02/2008 7:17:16 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Hildy

There’s nothing worse than a really bad marriage and nothing better than a really good marriage. I should know because I’ve had both.


6 posted on 06/02/2008 7:17:28 AM PDT by KevinB (John McCain is to the Republican Party as James Taylor is to the the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame)
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To: Hildy

“Dear Lord, just let me find a woman who is a pain in the A$$ only 10% of the time and I’ll kiss her feet.”


7 posted on 06/02/2008 7:17:42 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Skirting the line between rakishly charming and frighteningly maniacal.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Is it a “gay” reason?


8 posted on 06/02/2008 7:17:57 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
"But here's the secret I tell my women friends when they ask me the secret to finding the right man for yourself. Women need to look very honestly (and that's hard for a woman to do) at themselves and assess what the top TWO most important thing she needs to be happy in life."

This would be an even more interesting thread if female Freepers would post their "TOP TWO".

9 posted on 06/02/2008 7:19:01 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: CholeraJoe

sorry, i’m taken : ) LOL!!!


10 posted on 06/02/2008 7:20:04 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Hildy

We have unreal expectations and still, after all this time, a fairy tale image of what life should be and when life falls short, we take it out on the people we love.

That sentence sums up my ex-wife pretty well..


11 posted on 06/02/2008 7:20:06 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.liberallunacy.bravehost.com..I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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To: Hildy

Proverbs 21:9
Better to live alone in a tumbledown shack than share a mansion with a nagging spouse. (The Message)

And I imagine it can work either way as many middle-aged women are opting for remaining single as well.

So, what exactly are the TWO most important things a woman needs to be happy in life? Inquiring men want to know. :-)


12 posted on 06/02/2008 7:20:33 AM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Hildy

Here we go. Four thousand posts about How Awful Women Are.


13 posted on 06/02/2008 7:21:02 AM PDT by ottbmare
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To: Hildy; All

scared?

hardly.

It seems men tend to do a cold hard cost benifit analysis and make a conclusion.

Scared implies they can overcome their fear of being in a bad marriage in order to be in a bad marriage. (ala fear of flying)

Right idea wrong execution for this stating the obvious concept.

They should have just said men don’t want to mary a b*tch or a nag.


14 posted on 06/02/2008 7:21:18 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hildy

There is a glut of cheap milk on the market, so the price of cows is way, way down...


15 posted on 06/02/2008 7:21:18 AM PDT by gridlock (Now that Polar Bears are protected under ESA, where do I go to apply for a permit to breathe?)
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To: Hildy
Bachelor Carl Weisman got fed up of being classified as a playboy, a loser or a commitment-phobe so he set out to find out exactly why he and a growing number of eligible men were steering clear of marriage.

Weisman, 49, conducted a survey of 1,533 heterosexual men

*****************

Not buying it.

16 posted on 06/02/2008 7:21:31 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Hildy
The older I get the more I see how downright selfish women can be

Definitely. Of course, men can be that way too. It's a humanity thing.

17 posted on 06/02/2008 7:21:43 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

i’d have to say my top two are: be considerate, and have a great sense of humor.


18 posted on 06/02/2008 7:21:59 AM PDT by xsmommy
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Your comments were more insightful than what was contained in the article. I will throw in my two cents worth. I think women tend to make choices emotionally, which skews their choice in favor of wants rather than needs. They tend to make the same mistake again and again. Men on the other hand are probably more analytical and put needs above wants. And this article tends to underline that, by pointing out how many make very calculated decisions about relationships and that calcualation many times leads to remaining single. Women FEEL they are not making a mistake while men FEAR they might be making a mistake.


19 posted on 06/02/2008 7:22:11 AM PDT by Biblebelter (If the big blue states got to choose the Republican nominee, I say let them elect him in the fall)
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To: Hildy
Although the title is stupid, I mean DUH....kind of interesting. I'm a middle-aged woman and I've seen enough to form the conclusion it must be very hard to be a man in today's dating world. Women are more difficult these days than ever before. They've been told now, from an early age, that their needs come first and that basically, men suck.

And on top of that, in the Oprah-generation, people divorce when they no longer feel the magic.

20 posted on 06/02/2008 7:22:19 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Polybius

No! No! It is that they have much more money than the rest of us!


21 posted on 06/02/2008 7:22:45 AM PDT by gridlock (Now that Polar Bears are protected under ESA, where do I go to apply for a permit to breathe?)
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To: ottbmare

but have you noticed the posts that say a good marriage is wonderful?

It is about finding the right woman and discarding the bad woman.

in a related story it takes digging in 90 tons of rock to find a diamond.


22 posted on 06/02/2008 7:23:09 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Can anyone guess what that politically incorrect reason is?

Larger Carbon Footprint?!?

23 posted on 06/02/2008 7:23:23 AM PDT by gridlock (Now that Polar Bears are protected under ESA, where do I go to apply for a permit to breathe?)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Married twice, divorced twice. Living now with my Doberman, who, while he can be demanding at times, at least does so in a non-verbal way which is much nicer. Also if he gets too far out of line, I can put him in his crate, something I never could do with either wife :)


24 posted on 06/02/2008 7:23:36 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Hildy
I think men are confused, as they should be.

Lot of truth here, although I'm not confused about it as much as I once was. I've learned the hard way that the best way to be humiliated and looked down upon is to have the audacity to actually ask a girl out. I'm not as dense as I appear, I actually got the message. So if they're interested, they can come to me. I've learned my lesson.
25 posted on 06/02/2008 7:24:04 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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To: Hildy
But while 72 percent of respondents said they were not afraid of marriage, about half of them said the situation that scared them most was marrying the wrong person.

See...36% of men are perfectly willing to marry the wrong person.

26 posted on 06/02/2008 7:24:50 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Hildy

Men prefer being solo


27 posted on 06/02/2008 7:25:08 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: ottbmare
Here we go. Four thousand posts about How Awful Some Women Are.

There. Fixed it for ya.

As someone that was married to two harridans and finally found contentment, I'm with the other guys on this one.

While there are wonderful women out there (and thank heavens I found one), our society is turning out a bumper crop of self-centered, ill-tempered, life-sucking shrews.

28 posted on 06/02/2008 7:25:49 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Hildy
I'm old enough to remember when someone was getting divorced, everyone assumed it was the husband's fault (cheating, drinking, etc.). Now when I hear someone is getting divorced, I automatically assume it was the wife's idea. Either she's got a boyfriend OR my personal favorite - she's no longer fulfilled by her marriage.

More and more women are selfish, self absorbed creatures. It's the church of Oprah and it's a crying shame.

If men aren't getting married, it's because they're not meeting any marriage material.

29 posted on 06/02/2008 7:27:34 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Hildy
Men prefer being solo over a bad marriage.

Women prefer being solo over a bad marriage.

30 posted on 06/02/2008 7:27:40 AM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver won't stay in Denver... August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: Hildy
This man, coming off of a second bad marriage, has a couple of observations.

The first is that women tend to advertise what they think the men want and not what they are. Their attitutde is that once he is hooked, she can go back to being what she prefers to be and there isn't a think he can do about it!

Second, both forget that you have to keep "dating", even after you are married to keep the excitement and interest in the marriage. If you don't keep your partner interested in you, he/she is going to wander off...not necessarily to another person, but to a more interesting activity or hobby.

The work really starts after the rings are exchanged!

31 posted on 06/02/2008 7:27:45 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Hildy

32 posted on 06/02/2008 7:29:01 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: newheart

For later read.


33 posted on 06/02/2008 7:29:03 AM PDT by IGOTMINE (1911s FOREVER!)
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To: Redleg Duke

You got that right.


34 posted on 06/02/2008 7:29:12 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Redleg Duke

You got that right.


35 posted on 06/02/2008 7:29:12 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
I see the same thing in many women. I think if you interviewed 2000 women you would discover many of them would rather be single then trapped in a bad marriage.

I don't think it a man woman thing so much as a generation thing.

36 posted on 06/02/2008 7:29:16 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: ottbmare
Here we go. Four thousand posts about How Awful Women Are.

All women are awful EXCEPT ottbmare, who is a wonderful lady.

Happy now?

37 posted on 06/02/2008 7:29:18 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Cthulu '08! Why vote for the lesser evil?)
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To: LZ_Bayonet; Hildy
"Women need to look very honestly (and that's hard for a woman to do) at themselves and assess what the top TWO most important thing she needs to be happy in life."

"This would be an even more interesting thread if female Freepers would post their "TOP TWO"."

Agreed! I'd like to see that list.

38 posted on 06/02/2008 7:29:51 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Hildy
What women want.

1. A house.
2. Cuddling.
3. Comfortable shoes.

What men want.

1. Sex.
2. Beer.
3. TV remote.

Number 2 is optional. Number one goes away after you say 'I do'.

39 posted on 06/02/2008 7:30:43 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create divisiveness.)
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To: gridlock
There is a glut of cheap milk on the market, so the price of cows is way, way down...

"That's when she told me a story 'bout free milk and a cow, and said 'no huggy no kissy til I get a wedding vow', I said 'Now hunny now baby, don't put my love upon no shelf' and she said 'Don't hand me no lines, and keep yo' hands to yo'self!'"

Georgia Satellites

40 posted on 06/02/2008 7:31:14 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: Pistolshot

They’ve discovered a food that will reduce the sex drive by at least 90%.

It’s called a ‘wedding cake.’


41 posted on 06/02/2008 7:32:41 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: longtermmemmory

“It is about finding the right woman and discarding the bad woman.”

No, actually, it’s about deciding that a committment is a committment. There are bad times. People change. If you can accept imperfection, and enjoy the good stuff... it works. (This is assuming 2 people who want to make it work, and have a basic compatiblity).

And being alone sucks.


42 posted on 06/02/2008 7:33:13 AM PDT by brownsfan (Algore makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.)
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To: LucyT

Any day of the week & all weekend long.


43 posted on 06/02/2008 7:33:49 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I've done here today doesn't force you to have a negative opinion of me....)
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To: Hildy

I was married for 19 years, and have been divorced for 20. I have no intention of getting remarried. I’ve discovered that “catch and release” is much more satisying in every respect.


44 posted on 06/02/2008 7:34:01 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: newheart

“And I imagine it can work either way as many middle-aged women are opting for remaining single as well.”

I am not middle-aged yet.....but yes I have never got married because I fear a bad marriage or married to the wrong person.

I have found that most men these days just want sex anyway, a lot of them I have kicked to the curb on or after the first date. In fact, they so expect to have sex I find them hard to deal, talk with or understand. It is so obvious that sex is all they are after and not me. Then they get angry with me and ask “what is the matter with you?”.
I have not been on a date in years.


45 posted on 06/02/2008 7:34:06 AM PDT by Morgana (Muslims...............I can't believe these people are that crazy without alcohol!)
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To: newheart; Red Badger

Well in the name of “equal” time:

Prov. 18:22

He who finds a wife finds a good thing And obtains favor from the LORD.


46 posted on 06/02/2008 7:35:27 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Hildy

“The older I get the more I see how downright selfish women can be...especially those who think they’re not.”

I’m in my late 30’s and never been married. Admittedly, I matured late. While in my last relationship I discovered Dave Ramsey, and I tried sitting down with my GF and explain to her what my goals were and that I needed her support in helping me plan ahead for any months events. She almost immediately became standoffish and even somewhat bitter.

It is not as if I was going to not take her out, or not buy her gifts, I just wanted to cut back a bit and try to be more frugal in our decisions. I was even planning a trip for the two of us for when I completed my plan. However, after getting ignored for about a month, I called and broke it off with her. Her feedback was that I chose other things over her.

The funny thing is that I have noticed that since I started working on my plan, I have matured greatly and I now have more disposable income than I thought possible. I look at that relationship as a close call and I have since learned alot about both myself and women in general.

Now, I think I know how to recognize the “princess syndrom,” even in the most disguised package!

Thanks for posting this article.


47 posted on 06/02/2008 7:36:46 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: JamesP81
I've learned the hard way that the best way to be humiliated and looked down upon is to have the audacity to actually ask a girl out.

Then you're asking out the wrong girls. Here are a few tips. Don't ask out a woman who swears. Don't ask out a woman who spends a lot of time putting herself together, i.e. go for the naturally pretty. An observation I've had over the years is that a lot of women who wear a good deal of makeup are either whackos or self absorbed.

Of course, I'm married to the only girl I ever dated so this advice may not be worth much since it doesn't come from experience, just observation. But I will say I managed to marry up. Way up.

48 posted on 06/02/2008 7:36:50 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: longtermmemmory

‘They should have just said men don’t want to mary a b*tch or a nag.”

They used scared because the cannot use a positive word related to men, thats against the Rueters code of (cough) ethics.


49 posted on 06/02/2008 7:37:07 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: ottbmare
Here we go. Four thousand posts about How Awful Women Are.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...Women are soft, they smell good and they're nuttier than squirrel poop; every last one of 'em!

50 posted on 06/02/2008 7:37:31 AM PDT by OSHA (framing it as though you've magically neutralized any potential negative eventuality)
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