Nothing you can say or do will convince these people otherwise...
Because I am the one they and I have been waiting for...and I am lovin' it.
Posted on 06/04/2008 7:14:41 AM PDT by Comedylover
Hillary actually won the popular vote, if you count Michigan – even if you give Obama the “undecided” votes. However, according to Real Clear Politics, officials didn’t release the numbers in Iowa, Nevada, Washington & Maine. Those states would likely give the edge to Obama, unless you count Michigan and don’t give Obama the “undecided.”
So if you do the Democratic thing and only count actual votes for actual candidates, Hillary wins. She flat out wins.
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She can be Prom Queen....Hurray!!
It's the Delegates, Stupid!
Does this mean I can start taunting my libtard acquaintances with “Obama was selected, not elected,” and enjoying some serious schadenfreude?
Kind of has that “selected, not elected” feel to it.
It's the Delegates, Stupid!
I love the fact that all of the idiotic arguments AlGore made in 2000 are now haunting the democRATs in their own internal process. LOL
This is how the dems pick their candidate!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c3f_1176432426
WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!! Let us know how they respond. I live in NJ and I will do the same. It should be great fun watching the libs stumble around for a reason why delegate votes are somehow different from electoral college votes.
Hillary! did NOT win the popular vote.
You simply cannot count Michigan without giving Obama the Uncommitted. You also cannot count the vote in IA, NV, ME, and WA.
Thus, the most fair and objective count is to count Michigan and give Obama the “uncommitted” votes.
Then use the estimate from IA, NV, ME and WA.
The result:
Obama 18,107,587 48.1%
Hitlery 18,045,829 47.9% Obama +61,758 +0.2%
Heck, if you throw out the super delegates, she won the delegate count also.
Should read: "You also cannot refuse to count the vote in IA, NV, ME and WA."
Is that true? That’s golden...
I thought of that. The storie’s point is that if you add all the votes for the two candidates, Hillary wins. Obama’s name is not “undecided.”
But I get your point.
Not if the DNC takes half the popular votes from Michigan and Florida away from her. All by the party rules of course...
It's absolutely not true. Throw out the Supers and and it's Obama 1766.5 Hitlery 1639.5
How do you come up with .5 delegates?
AGAIN don't people check this stuff? Overseas delegates get 1/2 a vote each. (Guam, Virgin Islands ect...) Further, each Michigan and Florida delegate only gets 1/2 a vote.
How many of Hitlery votes are Republican crossovers from Rush Chaos!!???
Hitlery will not go quietly into the night.
Actually, that is counting those votes. All of them. Hillary wins unless you rename Obama “undecided.”
Isn’t that the truth! I love how they all said in 2004...”count every vote!” Which we weren’t opposed to but yet, just the other day, the mantra in Florida and Michigan was: “...your vote counts, but only half!” HA!
Will there be an apology forthcoming to GWB???
Ha ha ha! So did Gore. Suck it up, cupcake.
It depends on who is doing the counting. There are not just super delegates, but other “unpledged” delegates involved. Many of the ones “committed” to Obama now were originally allocated to Clinton... their entire process is screwie.
Re-count!!!! Real Democrats should insist that every vote has been counted. If they don't, they are nothing be a bunch of weasily hypocrits.
Reagan won the popular vote in 1976 against Gerlad Ford, and that is despite the fact that he wasn’t even on the ballot in much of NY and Pennsylvania! Ford stillgot the nomination.
It didn’t feel like springtime yet and the cold and rain outside added to the gloom inside. There was despair and doom so thick it sucked the air out of the room. Those inside the room were only the insiders. The brains of the Hillary for President campaign. They discussed their options and deliberated the only two paths to the presidency.
1. Win the Democrat nomination
2. Take the VP slot.
They determined that even if Hillary wins the nomination, she is doomed in November because she has lost the black vote and her negatives are the highest of any major candidate in history. She would not only lose in the general election but her negatives would create a firestorm that would drag down the moderate RATs in their congressional districts. Her mere presence would motivate the right in great numbers.
But thanks to OPERATION CHAOS, there is another alternative. Although the RAT nomination was decided on Big Tuesday, Hillary’s win in Texas and Penn enabled her to stay in the race and stay highly relevant. Without those wins, she would have just faded away. But with Obama at the head of the ticket, the black vote is assured, far-left America-hating liberals are appeased, and the historical angle will motivate many left-leaning moderates. Add Hillary to the ticket and the women vote will be secured. With the unwavering support of a 90% RAT media, it’s a winning ticket. So what if she has to ride the coattails of a successful male…she’s done it before.
On January 20, 2009, Hillary will be sworn in as the vice president, and only a heart beat away from the oval office.
Then on that fateful day in June 2009, President Obama will stroll into Ft. Marcy Park, seeking solace and silence as he contemplates how he could have been so wrong about the terrorist who just bombed another US Embassy. At some point his grief takes over and he decides that he can no longer lead this country. Although he is left-handed, he takes a handgun in his right hand and with extreme accuracy, fires two rounds into the back of his head, without leaving any traces of blood or body matter.
The next morning, Hillary stands before Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr to be sworn in, with a gleaming Bill Clinton standing by her side. Her swear in is followed by her first speech as President Hillary. “As your President I just wanna say, Rush, be careful what you ask for…”
What about if all delegates got a full vote? What kind of Democrat believes that some people's vote only counts as half????
Yeah, and the NY Yankees outscored the Pittsburgh Pirates 55-27 in the seven-game World Series of 1960. But, the Pirates won 4 of those 7 games, and, by rule, were declared World Champions.
Rush wants the Dems to win so he'll have four years of higher ratings.
> Not if the DNC takes half the popular votes from Michigan and Florida away from her. All by the party rules of course...
The party doesn’t take “votes” away... only delegates. Regardless of how delegates are apportioned, a vote is a vote.
Are you seriously suggesting that overseas territories should get a full vote? Seriously?
BUT, even if you did give all the delegates a full vote, it still wouldn't make a difference. Obama still had the pledged delegate lead. Rush's efforts notwithstanding.
- the WINNER is the team that wins the most games.
Not the one that got the most runs.
Obama won the most games. Period.
If Hillary actually cared about what the public wanted she would not have been in an undemocratic party in the first place.
She apparently got the popular vote, which again was denied by the DNC.
She and McCain are so kissy-faced to each other - she doesn't want Obama to win any more than McCain does.
“She can be Prom Queen....Hurray!!”
Visualizing Sissy Spacek in “Carrie”.
I don't mean any disrespect, but why give Obama any votes for Michigan at all. The man took his name off the Michigan ballet. He can't cry foul when the choice to take his name off the ballet was his own.
Hillary could have taken her name off the ballet as well but she left it on. To give Obama anything in Michigan when his name was not on the ballet, by his own choice, makes him selected not elected.
Hey, the primary rules were set up and agreed upon by everyone. Mi and FL Dem leadership knew the rules. The willfully broke the rules and made the Dem voters suffer the consiquences. Sucks. So sorry. But if the Dems count MI and FL in full, it sets up the precident that no one needs to follow the rules because there are no meaningful consiquences. And if that happens to the Dems, some piss poor Repub leadership in some state will follow that precident and do their own thing too.
Blame the MI and FL Dem leadership for disenfranchising the Dem voters. Sucks. As Glen Beck said: “Too bad.”
If I remember correctly, didn’t Bush Senior win the popular vote against Clinton?
(My memory doesn’t work much any longer)
It was eerie how the MSM jumped on the Obama bandwagon early, and turned him into Teflon man, while making sure everything stuck to Hillary.
Heck, it was surreal.
From the perspective of a Democrat, absolutely. That is a basic principle of the Democratic party that everyone, including convicted criminals, illegal aliens, or even dead people should have the right to vote without any verification.
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