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Painfully Inadequate
NRO ^ | 5 June 2008 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 06/05/2008 7:17:44 AM PDT by Rummyfan

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To: Rummyfan; PhilDragoo; devolve; potlatch; BOBTHENAILER; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Richard Poe; abb; ...

“But you cannot lose a nuclear war for three years and then come back. You cannot even sustain the will to resist for three years when you are first broken down morally by threats and then devastated by nuclear bombs.

Our one window of opportunity to prevent this will occur within the term of whoever becomes president of the United States next January.

At a time like this, we do not have the luxury of waiting for our ideal candidate or of indulging our emotions by voting for some third party candidate to show our displeasure — at the cost of putting someone in the White House who is not up to the job.

Senator John McCain has been criticized in this column many times. But, when all is said and done, Senator McCain has not spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America.

On the contrary, he has paid a huge price for resisting our enemies, even when they held him prisoner and tortured him. The choice between him and Barack Obama should be a no-brainer.”

— Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution

Anyone wanting 4 or more years of Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas as Potus to punish the republicans has a real problem mentally and ego wise or they want the destruction of America as we know it. That same bs got us 8 years of the Clintoons and the current rat controlled congress. Anyone who thinks losing is winning is mentally ill.


21 posted on 06/05/2008 7:43:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas's Vanilla Ice Priest, Pfleger,“America is the greatest sin against God!")
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To: rhombus
"THAT might be enough to again waken the sleeping giant"

After any attack the next pres will be tasked with one thing and that is to be distinct from W, security be damned. It's what the BDSers have wrought, including and especially the right wing traitor trash variant.


22 posted on 06/05/2008 7:44:11 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: rhombus

“That’s a scenario that makes a lot more sense to me but not American cities first.”

You hope but it may be your city that gets hit first.


23 posted on 06/05/2008 7:44:11 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: cpdiii

Sowell never misses the obvious, for sure.


24 posted on 06/05/2008 7:45:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: wideawake

And here I was worrying about the looters getting everything I’ve worked for...

and Sowell brings up the possibility of total annihilation.


25 posted on 06/05/2008 7:45:57 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Grampa Dave
At a time like this, we do not have the luxury of waiting for our ideal candidate or of indulging our emotions by voting for some third party candidate to show our displeasure — at the cost of putting someone in the White House who is not up to the job.

Your sentiments on this issue are identical to mine. This is not the time for conservatives to blow their nose off, to spite their face.

26 posted on 06/05/2008 7:47:39 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Rummyfan
While I tend to agree with Mr. Sowell most of the time I'm afraid that I don't agree with him this time.

I don't think that even if Iran does become nuclear weapons capable that it will mean that they will be handing out nuclear weapons to terrorists like candy to tots on Halloween.
In the first place, the uranium/plutonium needed to create a nuclear weapon can be traced back to the reactor that created it.
If an American city were to be destroyed by a nuclear weapon and the nuclear portion of it was traced back to Iran, Iran would quickly be American owned. Even if it was owned as a glass parking lot, it would be American owned.

In the second place, if you continue to be led to the left and you don't resist, eventually you will be on the side of the left with a mighty fight in front of you to go back to the right.
The GOP has been led to the left since President Reagan left office.
John McCain will do nothing to bring the GOP back to the right. The last decade shows where John McCain's leadership will take us.

If you reward the right for going to the left, the right will continue to go to the left even faster than it has to this point.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with Mr. Sowell this time.

27 posted on 06/05/2008 7:47:48 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: DarthVader

Nah, they’ll get you before they get me. ;-)


28 posted on 06/05/2008 7:47:58 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Rummyfan

“When Election Day came that year, I could not bring myself to vote for either George McGovern or Richard Nixon. I stayed home. “

Well, he gives cover and justification to every person who likes niether Obama or McCain. Unfortunate.


29 posted on 06/05/2008 7:48:42 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: Rummyfan

Unless the US and other nations start to get serious about their dealings with islam, this planet faces some dark times. The elimination of Ahmanutjob, Bin Laden, AQ or any of these so called radicals will mean nothing unless islam is wiped from the face of the earth.

I don’t want to hear any nonsense about needing 1 billion + body bags. We wiped out fascism without killing all the Germans...hell, we didn’t even need to kill all the Nazis. So long as islam exists, we are in mortal danger.


30 posted on 06/05/2008 7:50:34 AM PDT by Roccus (Fighting POLITICIANS is the war on terror!)
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To: Rummyfan
When McCain, gets out of bed with the KLA, and starts sounding like Amb. John R. Bolton, on the issue of Islamic Terror in the Balkans, then I'll know he finally gets it!
31 posted on 06/05/2008 7:50:42 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (he might even get my vote............waiting for the backlash........)
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To: rhombus
Rhombus, my FRiend, I respectfully do not agree.

Once Iran tests a nuke, it needs only to say that it has another in a large US city, that it may not detonate if we do what they say.

The Obamas, Clintons, Schumers, Pelosis of the left would roll-over obediently, and meet with them to discuss terms of a "peaceful" solution (surrender by stages?) and call it a very fair outcome.

Dr. Sowell has a valid concern.

32 posted on 06/05/2008 7:50:47 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: LeGrande

What about the SCOTUS? Them there’s 30-40 years of law making, not the 4 that BO has if he wins. Oh, and the WOT. Think BO’s anti-American clan is going to pursue that with any vigor? I’m not a McCain fan, believe me, but Sowell is right. Way too much at stake...


33 posted on 06/05/2008 7:51:37 AM PDT by eureka! (McCain....I guess.)
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To: Just another Joe

I agree with you about your assessment of what Iran can do and can’t do with a bomb. It’s Israel who should be worried. I disagree that putting Obmaa in the White House will somehow show the world that conservatives were right all along and help elect the Great Pumpkin Conservative to make things right. That seems as flimsy as Linus’s security blanket.


34 posted on 06/05/2008 7:52:06 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Seaplaner

Surely, following 9/11, we have radiological detectors in our major cities...


35 posted on 06/05/2008 7:54:12 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: rhombus
I don’t think people are going to believe that once Iran has a bomb, American cities are going to start blowing up.

Leadership isn't about acting on what others believe.

36 posted on 06/05/2008 7:55:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: Perdogg
I think total with China will probably happen in the next decade.

That will never happen.

The Chinese are not out of their minds, and a first strike by the US would erase more than 75% of China's very tightly packed population along with 100% of its industrial base and 100% of its agricultural land.

The problem with Iran is that Ahmadinejad, unlike Jintao, is actually insane. Completely bonkers.

37 posted on 06/05/2008 7:55:36 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Rummyfan

“Our choices will be to give in to whatever the terrorists demand — however outrageous those demands might be — or to risk seeing American cities start disappearing in radioactive mushroom clouds.”

Mutually assured destruction worked in the cold war and could work in the ME. Terrorists cannot build/attain an atomic bomb without govt help. As long as the consequences of an atomic blast in America are spelled out well ahead of time, our enemies can be deterred. For example, lets say the Iranian, syrian, and a few other likely suspects are notified that in the case of atomic terrorism, their nations will be obliterated, regardless of the source of the bomb. I think we would soon see the bodys of aspiring nuclear terrorists showing up in landfills.


38 posted on 06/05/2008 7:57:10 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Perdogg

Rather unemotionally, I do not perceive Obama to be much worse. Personally in what he will try, this is true. In what they will accomplish, McCain is worse. Any opposition to the Leftist agenda he will push and the activist judges he will appoint will melt away because he is the head of the Party. He would be another Jimmy Carter and take the Republican Party to new lows.


39 posted on 06/05/2008 7:59:27 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Seaplaner
Once Iran tests a nuke, it needs only to say that it has another in a large US city, that it may not detonate if we do what they say. The Obamas, Clintons, Schumers, Pelosis of the left would roll-over obediently, and meet with them to discuss terms of a "peaceful" solution (surrender by stages?) and call it a very fair outcome.

First, the Obamas, Clintons, Schumers, and Pelosis are rolling over now. With a demonstrated Iranian nuke I think they'd have a harder time rolling over but I'll concede maybe not. Second, I was speaking politically. People just aren't going to buy the Iranian threat when it is presented the way Dr. Swell presented it, i.e., American Cities blowing up from nuclear explosions. You may think it a valid concern but politically I think that approach is a loser... right now. Of course between now and November something could happen and people might be more concerned about it but right now? They'll just say that is Bush-McCain fear mongering and blow it off and of course the media will help downplay any danger.

40 posted on 06/05/2008 8:01:30 AM PDT by rhombus
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