let me tell you.
if you questioned any of this one iota then you were smeared as a defender of child rape and so forth
maybe the vilest retorts on and on I’ve ever seen here in 8 years....just insane accusatory stuff ad nauseum
underneath much of it is open anti-Mormonsim, subtle or not so subtle female venting over women being submissive to odd religious practices...or worse
and some well meaning freepers who just let their emotions go to their head.
i alwasy said I figured it would go Short Creek and that consent law violations would be about it....period....not condoning or approving and alway qualifying about welfare fraud and lost boys though I read just recently there is no welfare at Eldorado...not sure if true.
but man....the salacious stuff running thru this.....8 year old brides, baby sacrifices and hidden murders and so forth....just wild stuff....it went on and on
run it all down best you can and try to reply and if the strident didn’t like your evidence they’s just name call and move on.
in the end...here we are....basically Short Creek again
I still strongly believe we need laws to protect children from abuse.
However, others may not have the same views of abuse as me.
In California if you spank a child with anything other than the palm of your hand then it is considered child abuse.
If you do spank with the hand, a CPS worker had better not see a handprint.
If you get upset and yell at your child for a major screw up, yep child abuse.
If you don't do as the state says, it is child abuse.
In California the problem arises because no one can tell you with any authority what really constitutes child abuse.
Parents with children who have some sort of disability such as those children with ADHD or Autism are automatically considered At Risk Families.
The state Child Protective Service can step in and then the nightmare starts for the family.
By the way, once the police take the children into custody the parents no longer have any rights to make decisions as to anything from medical care or what clothes to wear.
Most of the time, unless the parent pleads guilty the costs to take care of a complaint can run upwards of $10,000 dollars.
In California, each parent has their own attorney assigned by the CPS whether you want the children to have one or not.
Each child in the family automatically gets an individual CPS attorney who works not for the parents good but for the CPS agenda.
By the way, the parents, whether they win in court or not are financially obligated to pay the mandated attorney fee assigned by CPS.
As one very liberal CPS attorney told me, “The state is better prepared to raise at risk children” than most parents.
Searching the Internet shows thousands of posts from parents caught up in false accusations of child abuse.
A parent falsely and anonymously accused has little or no recourse to face their accusers.
All it takes is some school employee getting mad at a parent and oops there go's the anonymous report of child abuse.
Also, as the liberal CPS attorney told me “in child abuse accusations the parent is guilty until proved innocent”.
In most cases, CPS exerts overbearing pressure on parents to cop a plea whether guilty or not.
In many cases it's all about notches in the gun belt of the case workers.
Just the lowly opinion of a red state wannabe.