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Obama Throws Jerusalem Under the Bus
Little Green Footballs ^ | Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:59:28 pm PST | LGF

Posted on 06/05/2008 9:57:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Barack Obama’s flip-flops are getting closer together; now he’s “clarifying” points he made just a day ago: Obama clarifies united J’lem comment.

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama did not rule out Palestinian sovereignty over parts of Jerusalem when he called for Israel’s capital to remain “undivided,” his campaign told The Jerusalem Post Thursday.

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama addresses AIPAC Policy Conference 2008, Wednesday.

“Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided,” Obama declared Wednesday, to rousing applause from the 7,000-plus attendees at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee policy conference.

But a campaign adviser clarified Thursday that Obama believes “Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties” as part of “an agreement that they both can live with.”



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; democrat; democrats; flipflop; hamas; hezbollah; israel; jerusalem; jewsagainstobama; lgf; obama; obamagaffe; obamasama; obamatruthfile; osamabama
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1 posted on 06/05/2008 9:57:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I voted for jeruselem before i voted against it.


2 posted on 06/05/2008 9:59:20 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: All
From Flopping Aces:

Obama Flip-Flopping Again

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Posted by: Curt @ 8:26 pm in Barack Obama, Israel/Palestine

Just more evidence that this man is an inexperienced rube. Yesterday at AIPAC he tried to act the tough guy and said the following:

“Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided,”

Well, seeing as how the US position on this issue for years has been….no position really. Other then insisting on the two parties work it out themselves. You can see how this got him into some hot water:

Facing criticism from Palestinians, Sen. Barack Obama acknowledged today that the status of Jerusalem will need to be negotiated in future peace talks, amending a statement earlier in the week that Jerusalem “must remain undivided.”

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Obama quickly backtracked today in an interview with CNN.

“Well, obviously, it’s going to be up to the parties to negotiate a range of these issues. And Jerusalem will be part of those negotiations,” Obama said when asked whether Palestinians had no future claim to the city.

Both sides are just a bit pissed:

Many on the right of the political spectrum among America’s Jews welcomed Obama’s remarks at AIPAC, but the clarification of his position left several cold.

“The Orthodox Union is extremely disappointed in this revision of Senator Obama’s important statement about Jerusalem,” said Nathan Diament, director of public policy for the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations. He had sent out a release Wednesday applauding Obama’s Jerusalem remarks in front of AIPAC.

“In the current context, everyone understands that saying ‘Jerusalem… must remain undivided’ means that the holy city must remain unified under Israeli rule, as it has been since 1967,” Diament explained.

“If Senator Obama intended his remarks at AIPAC to be understood in this way, he said nothing that would reasonably lead to such a different interpretation.”

Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America and another Jewish activist who had originally lauded Obama’s statement, now called the candidate’s words “troubling.”

“It means he used the term inappropriately, possibly to mislead strong supporters of Israel that he supports something he doesn’t really believe,” Klein charged.

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And some groups were pleased by the clarification on Jerusalem provided by the campaign.

“There was reaction from some of our base who were taken aback by it and thought he was undermining the peace process,” said Americans for Peace Now spokesman Ori Nir, who described his organization as “gratified” by the clarified position which seems to follow APN’s policy that sovereignty of Jerusalem could be shared in a final peace settlement.

No experience in foreign policy, diplomacy, and very little experience as a legislator…..man, you Democrats can pick em’ huh? He does give a damn spiffy speech tho. In a empty suit.


3 posted on 06/05/2008 10:00:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That bus may Highcenter by Nov. With Grandma/Wildman Wright and Jeruselum squished under it.

Pray for W and Our Troops


4 posted on 06/05/2008 10:00:04 PM PDT by bray (If everyone hates you, you must be doin something right?)
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To: Walkingfeather

See #3.


5 posted on 06/05/2008 10:00:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: bray

I will second that to pray for W and our troops


6 posted on 06/05/2008 10:03:47 PM PDT by proudCArepublican
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To: bray

And the Presidential Candidate sh*ts and falls back in it again. Henceforth I shall call him Backpeddling ‘Bama...thus it is said, thus shall it be done....!


7 posted on 06/05/2008 10:03:52 PM PDT by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

THe left’s newest false God is speaking with forked tongue.


8 posted on 06/05/2008 10:07:18 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Iraq's WMD's will be found in Syria after Bush leaves office.God will vindicate a righteous decision)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What an idiot.


9 posted on 06/05/2008 10:08:26 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is Obama's reactive flop with the "Palestinians upset about Obama's Israel support."

Obama setting things straight with his Hamas boys.

10 posted on 06/05/2008 10:09:22 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: All
FR Thread :

Obama: Jerusalem must remain the undivided capital of Israel (Obama says anything to get elected)

Followed by a FR Thread on the Clarification:

Obama clarifies united J'lem comment

11 posted on 06/05/2008 10:09:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Israel Is A Dirty Word" said Obama's pastor of 20 years, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
12 posted on 06/05/2008 10:12:01 PM PDT by Daaave (Magically delicious!©)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

LoL! Obama’s AIPAC flip flopping didn’t get him anything but lost votes.


13 posted on 06/05/2008 10:12:40 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...

I think this is worthy of a Major ping....Obama steps in it Again Ping!


14 posted on 06/05/2008 10:13:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: bray

Don’t forget Rezko and Pfleger and Farrakhan and Meeks and maybe soon Michelle.


15 posted on 06/05/2008 10:15:50 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Has Hillary conceded yet??? :)


16 posted on 06/05/2008 10:16:14 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Red Steel
From your Link:

PETER CAVE: Palestinian leaders have been stunned and angered by Barack Obama's pledge of support for Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel.

It's effectively ended any hope they had that Jerusalem might be the capital of a Palestinian state in the foreseeable future.

17 posted on 06/05/2008 10:16:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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It doesn't matter: Obama’s appeasement of Iran will lead to JERUSALEM’s becoming a smoking, radioactive ruin by the end of his second term.
18 posted on 06/05/2008 10:17:09 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: caseinpoint

He may have to get a Bigger Bus??

Pray for W and Our Troops


19 posted on 06/05/2008 10:17:22 PM PDT by bray (If everyone hates you, you must be doin something right?)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Well,...they had a meeting tonight...saw that somewhere.


20 posted on 06/05/2008 10:17:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The fact that Obama fumbles Israel shows he does not support Israel. Who fumbles things they are passionate about?


21 posted on 06/05/2008 10:18:15 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Barack Obama’s flip-flops are getting closer together; now he’s “clarifying” points he made just a day ago:..."

I dunno about you, but it seems as if this guy has been corrected by and asked by someone to correct his statements again.

This guy seems to be under the control of a so called "Puppetmaster."

22 posted on 06/05/2008 10:19:07 PM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: Walkingfeather
Exactly. It sounds as if Mr. Obama may have chosen his “campaign adviser” using the same judgment he used to chose his minister and other “friends”.
23 posted on 06/05/2008 10:19:13 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My faith in Obama making gaffes and stepping in it daily is restored. ;-)


24 posted on 06/05/2008 10:22:03 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Islamist Hamas movement that rules the Gaza Strip slammed a speech by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Wednesday, saying it confirmed US "hostility" to Arabs and Muslims.

Hamas hits out at Obama

Nothing like a Presidential candidate that stands up to terrorists.
/s

25 posted on 06/05/2008 10:22:53 PM PDT by taraytarah (Get the man a bigger bus.)
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To: bray; Ernest_at_the_Beach
He may have to get a Bigger Bus??

Definitely bigger wheels to make it sit higher...I have a feeling he'll be throwing more people under that bus before this thing is over.

26 posted on 06/05/2008 10:24:25 PM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Allegra

He’s going to need a Monster Bus after he throws America under it.


27 posted on 06/05/2008 10:27:23 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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To: Allegra; potlatch; devolve; PhilDragoo

I think I can see an animation....a Bus with earthmover size tires and boddies piling up under it....calling for the experts...


28 posted on 06/05/2008 10:29:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Thanks Ernest.

Obama backtracks on a united Jerusalem
The Jerusalem Post | Jun 6, 2008 | HILARY LEILA KRIEGER
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2008 06:20:48 PM by mdittmar
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2026727/posts


29 posted on 06/05/2008 10:32:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; devolve

Lol, sounds good but too late at night right now!
Thanks for the ping Ernest.


30 posted on 06/05/2008 10:33:03 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel,

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Senor Smoke and Mirrors Obama’s folks were already meeting with Hamas to decide how to divide up Israel.

31 posted on 06/05/2008 10:33:15 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. ABORTION-The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This bozo is a disgrace.


32 posted on 06/05/2008 10:36:16 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: bray
Oh, don't forget Rezko and Father what's-his-name!! It's already crowded under that bus. Not to even mention the fact that he would sure like to perform a “hit and run” on Hillary.
33 posted on 06/05/2008 10:37:53 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: potlatch

Think about it while you rest....you could be famous!...LOL!


34 posted on 06/05/2008 10:39:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: sofaman

Obama Throws Jerusalem Under the Bus ping


35 posted on 06/05/2008 10:39:53 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It depends on what your definition of “divided” is...


36 posted on 06/05/2008 10:42:58 PM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
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To: Godwin1
Lordy, I don't think the “appeasement” is exclusive to Iran. It seems to be anyone/anything Muslim.
37 posted on 06/05/2008 10:44:13 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: tabor

ping.


38 posted on 06/05/2008 10:45:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: singfreedom

Did you know about his middle name...?

LOL!


39 posted on 06/05/2008 10:47:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: SoCalPol
I've been following this and thinking about the Libs that pilloried Pres Bush, calling him an idiot ... parodying him with "misunderestimated" ... he can't talk ... yada, yada, yada.

Yesterday he mispoke again!?? After his "I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it.” 60 states? who knew?

And today he "... confused the word "inhaler" with "breathalizer." And "Then he called it an "inhalator."

karma ... Dems chickens, coming home to roost!

40 posted on 06/05/2008 10:48:41 PM PDT by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to bring us to the one place in the ME with no oil.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I sure did, Ern, but he's tried so hard to convince everyone that he wasn't a Muslim! I think maybe he's just not a very good actor? Or maybe that “judgment thing” just jumped up and bit him between the big toes again!
41 posted on 06/05/2008 10:53:24 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: sofaman

Bambi is way over his head, he is going to be a laughingstock and even the MSM won’t be able to stop it. Not only will he lose in a landslide but he will be an embarrassment to the Black community and to Leftists. Marx and Lenin won’t even admit to knowing him after its all over.....and he had such commie promise.


42 posted on 06/05/2008 10:56:03 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: singfreedom

He is really piling up some good material.

...for the Townhall meetings.

Think I’ll shut down here.

Nite.


43 posted on 06/05/2008 10:57:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: txflake
Why any Jew would vote for Obama is beyond my capacity for rational thought.

The man is a pathological liar, and he has no interest in defending Israel against the threat of Islamic terrorism.

44 posted on 06/05/2008 10:59:36 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: HerrBlucher
there is no way Barry Bama can get elected as is....but remember were dealing with the MSM and the oligharchy that wants him in there.....there was no way Clinton should have got elected but he did....boys on the tracts, Whitewater, coccaine nose and all.....

I feel sorry for this country overall and I am sorry we're letting it go down the tubes after our parents saved the world from Hitler......if Barry gets elected, it might at least be Alaska..

45 posted on 06/05/2008 11:00:29 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Really, who is he to offer his two cents? I have heard him described as gifted and articulate, but I have not yet seen it. He has never really “done” anything. He is not stupid nor is he a genius. He is a little above average I would think.

It takes nothing to attract a bunch of manic supporters who refuse to see the truth and likely wouldn’t know it if they ever did. I takes no talent or intellect to take in the suckers. It only requires suckers. Jim Jones proved that long ago and some are still drinking the kool-aid. When you believe in nothing you will believe in anything, even a generously auriculated Marxist with anti-American ties, poor judgment and not enough sense to pour pi$$ out of a boot. Well, not unless there was a teleprompter with instructions on the toe of said boot. :)


46 posted on 06/05/2008 11:04:00 PM PDT by WildcatClan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So pandering Obama used Jerusalem as an applause line, but had no intention of supporting the new “position” he claims to have discovered on the issue.... is that the size of it?

What a scumbag. I knew when I saw the line about Jerusalem that it would be impossible to believe he really meant it, but it sure is mind-blowing to see his new position retraced (er, clarified) almost instantly.


47 posted on 06/05/2008 11:11:03 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Nite, Ernest, you sleep tite. Think I'll head that direction myself.
48 posted on 06/05/2008 11:22:50 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If Obama is elected President...I feel for Israel. Would he be the first President to be anti-Israel. I believe even Clinton was pro-Israel. I am not sure of Carter because he was so horrible, I try to forget his presidency.


49 posted on 06/05/2008 11:28:38 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Afraid of a Fatwa, is he? This couldn’t have anything to do with the comments Hamas made about him today, could it??? This man is way too inexperienced to be President - he’s going to get us all killed!


50 posted on 06/05/2008 11:46:48 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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