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Mexico says US defying world court order, asks court to stop execution of Mexicans
AP ^ | June 5, 2008 | AP

Posted on 06/06/2008 8:22:20 AM PDT by AuntB

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - Mexico has appealed to the U.N.'s highest court to seek a stay of execution for Mexican citizens on death row in the United States.

It argues that U.S. authorities have failed to comply with an earlier ruling ordering a review of their trials.

The 2004 ruling said the prisoners' rights were violated since they were denied contact with the Mexican consulate before being tried.

The International Court of Justice said Mexico on Thursday asked the court for an "interpretation" of its 2004 judgment to clarify that the U.S. government must actually see the cases are reviewed.

The U.S. Supreme Court has denied hearing a Texas inmate's appeal based on the World Court's ruling.

His execution is set for Aug. 5.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; deathpenalty; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; mexico
Mexico president Calderon: ".....where ever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."

Don't forget, Mexico has a habit of voting against USA interests at the UN...like the war in Iraq.

1 posted on 06/06/2008 8:22:21 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

They shouldn’t worry. No matter who gets elected this time out, they’ll have a lackey....er “friend” in Washington.


2 posted on 06/06/2008 8:24:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I miss the days when only the politicians were unethical.)
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To: AuntB

Hey, hombre, you come to America and kill someone...our slogan, “Go to Hell”, applies both figuratively to you who are trying to get the UN involved in changing our system (and to the UN officials as well), and literally to those who do the crime. Particaularly in Tejas!


3 posted on 06/06/2008 8:24:57 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: AuntB

Someone needs to tell him that it’s U.S. of America and not U.N.


4 posted on 06/06/2008 8:25:21 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: AuntB

Keep your criminals home, Mexico, and you won’t have to worry about it.


5 posted on 06/06/2008 8:25:52 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: CindyDawg
Invite the Mexican consulate to the execution. Problem solved.
6 posted on 06/06/2008 8:26:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: AuntB

If they commit heinous crimes here they can die here. The UN can play its games all day long an accomplish nothing. Has there ever been in the history of the world such an overinflated utterly useless purely political world body?


7 posted on 06/06/2008 8:28:20 AM PDT by Maelstorm (The race is McCain's to lose.)
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To: AuntB

some commentary on yesterday’s thread also.


8 posted on 06/06/2008 8:29:14 AM PDT by RightWhale (We see the polygons)
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To: AuntB
Mexico president Calderon: ".....where ever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."

So a child born to a Mexican mother is actually considered to be born in Mexico?After all, she is a Mexican, so wherever she gives birth, that is Mexico. So the baby is NOT a US citizen, after all. Presidente Calderon may have solved a thorny legal issue for us. No more anchor babiers. Deport them!

9 posted on 06/06/2008 8:29:58 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: AuntB
I would buy into this if Calderon would insure that no Mexican lunatic criminal could come here and kill American citizens....

...meanwhile, I would watch the "Texas inmate" get the needle on tv if possible.

10 posted on 06/06/2008 8:29:58 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance......)
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To: AuntB
Mexico says US defying world court order, asks court to stop execution of Mexicans.

If true, then good for us.

11 posted on 06/06/2008 8:31:42 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: AuntB
We just had a case here in Pasco, WA where a Mexican killed his wife in cold blood right in front of their 11- 12 year old daughter.

The prosecutor made a plea bargain. You plead guilty and we send you back to Mexico, no jail time, because we don't want your daughter to have to testify at a trial.

12 posted on 06/06/2008 8:35:28 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I like the way you think.


13 posted on 06/06/2008 8:37:38 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: AuntB

Too bad! Chief Justice John Roberts has already spoken! The U.N. can take a fyling leap...


14 posted on 06/06/2008 8:44:42 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
Dumbass. The U.S Supreme Court has already ruled Texas is free to carry out its state laws as it sees fit and Mexico has no standing to change it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 06/06/2008 8:45:28 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: AuntB

Mexicans executing Mexicans would seem to be more of a problem than Americans executing Mexicans according to news reports.
Mexicans certainly have more reason to fear execution from the gun of a narco than the narcotics from the needle of an executioner.


16 posted on 06/06/2008 8:46:51 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Jeff Head
the UN involved in changing our system

I cannot understand why we are still part of this outdated and useless organization. It has done nothing for us, and everything against us. And the fact that it tries to (and has tried in the past) to dictate our laws and policies should be immediate grounds for our separation from it.

17 posted on 06/06/2008 8:58:36 AM PDT by BloodOrFreedom
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To: AuntB

I would like illegal aliens to stop murdering our citizens. Mexico, please stop them.


18 posted on 06/06/2008 8:59:54 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: AuntB
I'm trying to be as PC as I can in making the following statement

SCREW MEXICO!!

19 posted on 06/06/2008 9:22:23 AM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: Jeff Head

Like comedian Ron White says...... We have the death penalty in Texas, and we USE it.

You kill someone in Texas and we kill you back!!!


20 posted on 06/06/2008 9:25:11 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: politicalwit
I would suspect that if Obama wins the election in November one of his first moves will be to get in bed with the UN. In fact I believe he is on record for doing just that.
21 posted on 06/06/2008 9:41:13 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: AuntB
Mexico president Calderon: ".....where ever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."

This is an accurate stement... once they move in the neighborhood deteriorates into a ramshackle slum with junkyards and chop shops masquerading as car repair shops, with their offices painted bright yellow with freehand signs painted in black, in about 6 months.

22 posted on 06/06/2008 9:42:55 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: AuntB
The 2004 ruling said the prisoners' rights were violated since they were denied contact with the Mexican consulate before being tried.

I'm not sure this is factually correct. IIRC the prisoners were not denied contact with the Mexican consulate; they never requested it. In fact, I'm not sure that the nationality of the prisoners was established when they were arrested - that would be profiling, don't you know.

OTOH, the U.S. is signatory to a treaty that does require us to permit any alien to contact their consulate. It's in our best interests to hold to that treaty, as we want other countries to grant our citizens the same right in their countries. I'd like to know the facts here.

23 posted on 06/06/2008 11:13:52 AM PDT by RonF
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To: AuntB
Can someone help me out here?

Has the "World Court" ever prohibited Mexico from aiding her citizens in invading a neighboring sovereign State?

Didn't think so.

How many divisions does the World Court have to enforce its megalomania?

24 posted on 06/06/2008 11:24:26 AM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: goldstategop
Dumbass. The U.S Supreme Court has already ruled Texas is free to carry out its state laws as it sees fit and Mexico has no standing to change it.

Only partially tongue in cheek:
Why would that be dumb? Mexico has called the tune for the law and politicians here in the United States for many years.

25 posted on 06/06/2008 11:27:45 AM PDT by RJL
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To: AuntB

I guess the Mexicans haven’t figured we do not recognize the World Court....yet......


26 posted on 06/06/2008 11:28:00 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: indylindy

We’ll recognize it after Obama is elected.


27 posted on 06/06/2008 11:31:30 AM PDT by Round 9
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To: count-your-change
"Mexicans executing Mexicans would seem to be more of a problem than Americans executing Mexicans according to news reports. Mexicans certainly have more reason to fear execution from the gun of a

My thoughts exactly!

28 posted on 06/06/2008 11:32:55 AM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: RonF
I'm not sure this is factually correct. IIRC the prisoners were not denied contact with the Mexican consulate; they never requested it.

IIRC, We were supposed to tell them that they could contact the Mexican consulate, which did not happen.

29 posted on 06/06/2008 11:33:41 AM PDT by RJL
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To: FJB2

This is one that Obama and McCain may recognize. Both are suspect on this one, as we found out Bush is.


30 posted on 06/06/2008 11:35:36 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: Publius6961

“Can someone help me out here?

Has the “World Court” ever prohibited Mexico from aiding her citizens in invading a neighboring sovereign State?

Didn’t think so.”

Actually, I believe under Nafta, Mexico asked to make a ruling that Mexico’s citizens have the right to be here under ‘free trade’. They have complained before and they will again if they don’t get all they want.

“Every time the U.S. abandons the track of international cooperation, we have a big controversy,” Mexico’s Szekely said. The United States has an obligation to its international treaties, such as the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade and the North American Free Trade Agreement, he said, that supersedes its domestic law.”

http://news-service.stanford.edu/pr/94/940419Arc4318.html


31 posted on 06/06/2008 12:10:33 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Exit148

I knew it! I just knew it! I can read minds! Be forewarned and don’t think bad things.
But on a lighter note, Mexico has innocent people being gunned down every day and the Mexican gov. well knows that in the U.S. a death sentence is more like a life sentence without parole.


32 posted on 06/06/2008 12:45:12 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: AuntB

I live in Houston, Texas and the inmate was part of a gang that gang raped and murdered two teen girls. Three of the murder/rapists missed the death penalty because of age. One was executed and now we are awaiting the execution of the ringleader.
Having a teenage daughter, I will not soon forget that horrible day when they found the bodies of the victims.

http://www.murdervictims.com/Voices/jeneliz.html


33 posted on 06/06/2008 2:12:08 PM PDT by beingmyselfaok
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