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Biologist on the other life-forms the border fence would keep out
SF Gate ^ | June 6, 2008 | Healy Hamilton

Posted on 06/06/2008 7:26:54 PM PDT by 3AngelaD

"I grew up in San Rafael, in a household where we competed to see how many dishes we could fit in a dishwasher, to not be wasteful of water and energy. My mother was a relatively celebrated local environmentalist in Marin County in the 1970s, before it was hip. She was on the board of Save the Whales....

My colleagues at the Academy of Sciences are incredible experts at identifying and describing new species. My job is to map the knowledge they have provided about life on earth into patterns....

If we don't have a place for species to go, they may go locally extinct. The border wall will go from San Diego almost uninterrupted to the Gulf of Mexico. It's not like wildlife can just go around it. The border wall is right now about to sever the room that animals need to roam in.

It is an ecological fact that healthy populations have to move across the landscape and that fragmentation is the major nail in the coffin of a population. It makes two less stable populations where one stable population once was. Endangered jaguars, wolves and Sonoran pronghorn antelopes depend on borderland habitat...

We have three wildlife refuges, a national conservation area and a national monument, all of which will be adversely affected by the border wall...

For those of us who care about jaguars, there is a healthy population just across the border in northern Mexico. The jaguar is a beautiful cat that used to live all over western North America. It's been hunted to near extinction and has been on the federal endangered species list since 1972.

If there was a recovery plan, this border wall would be illegal, but it's part of this administration's attempt to gut the Endangered Species Act....

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; animalrights; borderfence; bordersecurity; environment; esa; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; nationalsecurity
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A PhD in biology and the critical thinking skills of a hedgehog. Seems to me if we are videoing a male jaguar in remote Arizona, then maybe the fence will keep it here.
1 posted on 06/06/2008 7:26:54 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

A product of 40 years of leftist thinking.


2 posted on 06/06/2008 7:45:07 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Not only that, there are holes in the ‘wall’ big enough for any animal smaller than an elephant to walk through.

Not all of the ‘wall’ is designed to stop people. Much of it looks like an old west hitching rail...it’s designed to stop vehicular traffic, not pedestrians.


3 posted on 06/06/2008 7:46:51 PM PDT by HiJinx (Give 'em Hell)
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To: 3AngelaD

Life sucks for everyone - and everything - when laws are being broken. Suck it up and deal with it, pantywaist.


4 posted on 06/06/2008 7:48:07 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: 3AngelaD
If there was a recovery plan, this border wall would be illegal, but it's part of this administration's attempt to gut the Endangered Species Act....

LOL It would be illegal if only it were against the law.
5 posted on 06/06/2008 7:51:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I miss the days when only the politicians were unethical.)
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To: 3AngelaD
A PhD and he cant tell the difference between a wall and a fence.
6 posted on 06/06/2008 7:54:02 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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To: 3AngelaD

Let’s send Healy down to the border alone and unarmed to study the impact that illegals have on the flaura and fauna.


7 posted on 06/06/2008 7:55:35 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: TADSLOS

Yeah I was just thinking that no self respecting jaguar is going to get within 10 miles of illegals crossing the border.


8 posted on 06/06/2008 7:58:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I miss the days when only the politicians were unethical.)
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To: 3AngelaD

From the artical:

“The Lightbulb: I was at a workshop in Tucson and climbed a mountain near the Mexico border. You could look south over an open, parched landscape. I imagined what it would be like as an animal trying to find food and a mate and a place to rear its young. I could see where the border wall will reverse decades of conservation effort in the Southwest.”


I live near Tucson. When I climb a mountain and look around I see tons of trash, rampant destruction of flora, erosion from years of illegal aliens and vehicles carving their own trails through what should be pristine wilderness. The conservation areas are burned out barren dirt. Wildlife or what remains of it are subject to year round poaching. The Jags have disappeared because of illegal aliens destroying the ecosystem, NOT due to threats of an UNBUILT fence.


9 posted on 06/06/2008 7:59:13 PM PDT by Old Flat Toad (Pima county- Home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: 3AngelaD
"My mother was a relatively celebrated local environmentalist in Marin County in the 1970s, before it was hip."

Being an environmentalist in Marin in the seventies was about as rare as being Kosher in Brookline.

As to "before it was hip", this boggles the brain and requires one to believe that it's "hip" now, rather than obtuse, moronic, elitist, tyrannical, socialistic, humanistic and stupid.

10 posted on 06/06/2008 7:59:16 PM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: 3AngelaD
in the 1970s, before it was hip. She was on the board of Save the Whales...

While I was working on whale, seal and salmon and veal recipes.

And wasn't the orignal organization called Save (every part of) the Whales?

I'm glad to be at the top of the food chain, and having dead cow with cheese on top of my pizza on this Friday night.

Hand-crafted pizza, with dough made fresh today, tomatoes and basil out of the garden. Mmmmmmm.

/johnny

11 posted on 06/06/2008 8:03:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: popdonnelly
Since leftists believe that America is the source of all of the world's problems simply move those species to Mexico then build the wall. The species should thrive then and it would follow that we can't hurt them being that these species are now isolated from the USA. Liberals can't even keep their own “logic” straight sometimes.
12 posted on 06/06/2008 8:13:13 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Old Flat Toad

13 posted on 06/06/2008 8:19:02 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy ("Once again, the white man keeps us down. What's up with Whitey?" - Michelle Obama)
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To: 3AngelaD

The greatest single threat to a jaguar’s life in the USA is the fact that it is named as an Endangered Species and is subject to the Federal Endangered Species Act protection.

That act is a “shoot on sight and immediately bury death sentance” to any animal species so unfortunately named.


14 posted on 06/06/2008 8:19:23 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: cripplecreek
Let me tell you about the venomous critters crossing the border.

I work in grocery stores all around, sampling wine, cheese etc., and there are new vipers, deadly spiders, scorpions coming in with the imported produce.

A few years ago in Austin, a woman peeling back the shuck on a fresh cob of corn was struck and killed on the spot by one of the deadly vipers Mexico has but we didn't until now.

15 posted on 06/06/2008 8:29:29 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txflake
I work in grocery stores all around, sampling wine, cheese etc., and there are new vipers, deadly spiders, scorpions coming in with the imported produce.

I read just today that a new strain of tuberculosis is making its way to the U.S. via Mexican cheese. Be damned careful about sampling cheese!

16 posted on 06/06/2008 8:38:19 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: JRandomFreeper
And wasn't the orignal organization called Save (every part of) the Whales?

How many environmentalists will acknowledge that the development of petroleum was probably the most important factor in saving the whales?

17 posted on 06/06/2008 8:45:41 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
Long time, no talk, UberKitten. Good to see you still here.

I pray things are better than when we last talked.

Getting rid of the the flensers just barely let the Nipponese and folks like me get a little bit of the meat, and stop the waste. But you are right. Environmentalists won't recognize that.

/johnny

18 posted on 06/06/2008 8:59:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: 3AngelaD
We have three wildlife refuges, a national conservation area and a national monument, all of which will be adversely affected by the border wall...

These national treasures are stewn with human excrement, rubbish and lingering illegal aliens, drug cartel members,and who knows who else on their way northward to America's cities - so much for the "environment" from the borderless fenceless aspect.

Who was Kris Eggle?

Kris Eggle was shot and killed in the line of duty at Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument, on August 9, 2002 while pursuing members of a drug cartel hit squad who fled into the United States after committing a string of murders in Mexico. He was 28 years old.

National park pot farms blamed on cartels

Hikers in national parks such as Yosemite and Sequoia-Kings Canyon are encountering a danger more hazardous than bears: illegal marijuana farms run by Mexican drug cartels and protected by booby traps and guards carrying AK-47s.

Desert trash - illegal immigrants impact on the environment - PHOTOS HERE

A long list of items, including abandoned vehicles, can be attributed to illegal immigrant groups traversing the desert. Items such as used needles, drug paraphernalia, plastic grocery bags, paper products, empty water containers, blankets, clothing, used disposable diapers, among other things. The heaps of litter long forgotten by those forging ahead come at a great cost to those who must bear the responsibility of cleaning it up. Sadly, the affects on the environment cannot, so easily, be repaired. Indeed, it is as much unnerving to acknowledge that such harm to our amazing desert ecology comes by such despair to survive. Hence, in killing the desert environment, illegal immigrants are finding life.

19 posted on 06/06/2008 9:48:26 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: 3AngelaD

We should build a fence around San Francisco.


20 posted on 06/06/2008 10:10:53 PM PDT by Rocky
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