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Doctors' anger at cruelty to patients (UK universal healthcare)
UK Telegraph ^ | June8, 2008 | Sarah-Kate Templeton

Posted on 06/07/2008 11:49:30 PM PDT by FocusNexus

THE medical establishment is in revolt against Labour's policy of denying National Health Service treatment to patients who pay privately for cancer medicines.

The outcry from eminent consultants and doctors' leaders came as news emerged of two more patients whose NHS care was removed while they were dying of cancer.

Baroness Ilora Finlay, president of the Royal Society of Medicine, said the issue went to the heart of the purpose of the health service.

Finlay's intervention, in an article for The Sunday Times, comes after it emerged that a man dying of kidney cancer had to battle for NHS care because his family followed doctors' advice to pay privately for a drug.

It also emerged that Sandra Baker, a bowel cancer victim, died last year after being denied NHS treatment in her final months. When she paid £9,500 privately for drugs, she was hit with an extra bill of £16,000 for her treatment. Last week The Sunday Times revealed the case of Linda O'Boyle who died of cancer aged 64 after being denied NHS treatment because she paid for a drug.

Ribeiro said: "I would strongly oppose the denial of life-saving operations to patients based on decisions they had made about how they supplement their NHS care."

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: freehealthcare; hillarycare; nannygovernment; obamacare; socializedmedicine; universalhealthcare
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Sign of things to come to the US under President Obama and a Dem controlled Congress.
1 posted on 06/07/2008 11:49:30 PM PDT by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus

Indeed. Government healthcare is not for the ill; it is only suited for health maintenance. Many Canadians have found that fact out far too late.


2 posted on 06/07/2008 11:55:04 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: FocusNexus

I don’t care because at least in the UK they have national health care. And as we all know, national health care is universal and free.

Except when it isn’t.


3 posted on 06/07/2008 11:57:23 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: SatinDoll
Government healthcare is not for the ill; it is only suited for health maintenance.

It's even better suited to getting socialists elected.

4 posted on 06/07/2008 11:59:05 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: FocusNexus

I’ll bet they didn’t refund the lifetime of taxes she paid in.


5 posted on 06/08/2008 1:51:18 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: FocusNexus

This sort of thing is criminal. How can they remove NHS basic care from a patient, unwilling to pay for the needed treatments, when a patient buys the medicine on their own? All doctors should gang up on the NHS and show them who makes the care decisions.


6 posted on 06/08/2008 2:44:24 AM PDT by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: SatinDoll

The same thing happens in some of the VA hospitals. Budget constraints prevents the latest (and expensive) chemotherapy drugs and radiation techniques to be used. VA patients eligible for Medicare would be far better off seeking cancer treatment outside of the VA system.


7 posted on 06/08/2008 3:06:12 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: denydenydeny

National Health Care is universal and free. Except when it isn’t.

good enought for a tagline.


8 posted on 06/08/2008 3:07:50 AM PDT by Gigantor (National Health Care is Universal and free. Except when it isn't.)
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To: denydenydeny

Here is what socialism does to the notion of “universal”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1576704/Don’t-treat-the-old-and-unhealthy,-say-doctors.html


9 posted on 06/08/2008 3:34:55 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: FocusNexus
It's very important to remember that buried in the HillaryCare bill, somewhere in the page 1300 range, were fines and jail terms for treating patients outside the system.

And she was wise to put them there. Unless the iron fist of the state prevents it, socialist medicine will spur the largest and greatest private market in health care (here in the US) that the world has ever seen.

10 posted on 06/08/2008 3:40:28 AM PDT by Jim Noble (May 17 was my Tenth Anniversary on FR)
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To: FocusNexus

bookmark


11 posted on 06/08/2008 3:54:52 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Sender

“All doctors should gang up on the NHS and show them who makes the care decisions.”

UH how about all PATIENTS. Brits are letting their government withhold medical care because they decided to pay for some extra medicine of their own. The result is needless death, pain, and suffering.

IMO Britain is no longer a civilized country.


12 posted on 06/08/2008 4:09:31 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Sender

You need about ten to fifteen percent of your population, the rest will stand by like sheep, to emulate the founding fathers of my country.

I call on you to end the socialist control of your country and return to free market capitalism. The socialists in your country will not go peacefully in the night.

The socialists who control my county have not yet got full control. I am hoping the mess that they have created will be able to be reformed through the system. My way of destroying them is through the system. I have made my own oath to destroy their power by lawful means.

Good luck to you, but first you must annihilate the socialist mentality.


13 posted on 06/08/2008 5:09:12 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: FocusNexus
If you want a truly chilling preview of what the Dems want to introduce here, follow this link. This link takes you to the website of NICE, the Nation Institute for Clinical Excellence. NICE is the organization that reccommends not only who gets treatment in the UK but also what research will get the most money as well. Here is their home page address that won't link in html for some reason: www.nice.org.uk. Your life in the hands of bureaucrats. Isn't that special?

One other thing I learned at the above site: In the entirety of the UK, there are a grand total of 223 MRI scanners (as of the 2006, I believe). In the US, where Dems insist we have the worst healthcare system in the world, there are approximately 9,000 MRI machines. Can't you just feel the compassion?

Is it just me or is there something positively Orwellian about this organization being called NICE? "Dear, the NICE people called to say that saving your life isn't cost effective. They regret any inconvenience this may cause you but, hey, your going to die so, you won't have long to complain about it." Real NICE, right?

14 posted on 06/08/2008 5:12:35 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: FocusNexus
And from 2007....

UK cancer survival rate lowest in Europe

Anyone who thinks socialized medicine is a cure for America's health care problems should be made to spend some time in a country that has it.

15 posted on 06/08/2008 5:13:58 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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I learned the other day that the average time it takes in the UK to get in to see a doctor to be diagnosed and treated for cancer is longer than the time necessary to be able to catch the cancer in time in order to be able to save the patient as defined by the EU’s and US’s medical governing bodies.


16 posted on 06/08/2008 5:19:01 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Reaganesque
This is from 2004, but I'll bet it's still the case....

Private hospitals don't get MRSA

17 posted on 06/08/2008 5:23:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Do we really want UK style Universal Healthfraud to come to the US?


18 posted on 06/08/2008 6:21:45 AM PDT by reg45
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To: denydenydeny

national health care = national health care rationing


19 posted on 06/08/2008 6:42:15 AM PDT by y6162
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To: mewzilla

Good Lord! Thanks for the info!


20 posted on 06/08/2008 8:49:14 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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