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1 posted on 06/08/2008 6:49:22 AM PDT by epow
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I already don’t believe Obama on...anything. When you look at his thin record in the Illinois Senate and as a “community organizer”...you find he’s way, way, left of center.

The problem will be getting this information out. The media are leading cheers for him. The big nets, CNN, NPR, PBS, and of course, MSNBC are part of his campaign.


2 posted on 06/08/2008 6:53:03 AM PDT by kjo
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Being an Illinois resident I concur with everything in your post. Too bad this information won’t see the light of day in the mainstream due to it being political suicide.


3 posted on 06/08/2008 6:54:32 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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While I was not a McCain supporter, there is a hugh difference between him and Comrade B. Hussein on the 2A issue.

I advise all to read the interview with McCain in the NRA's American Rifleman June 2008 issue.

6 posted on 06/08/2008 6:57:20 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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Gotta visit Cabela’s before November.


8 posted on 06/08/2008 6:58:24 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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Yes, he does all of these.

In fact, his campaign is proud of this consistent stance in favor of gun control. On his campaign website at http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/11/fact_check_no_news_in_obamas_c.php, he has the following explicit support for gun control:

GUNS

REALITY: OBAMA HAS CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL, AS WELL AS THE RIGHTS OF LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS

Obama Supported A Package Of Legislation That Would Limit Handgun Sales To One A Month. ''The package closes the Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card loopholes which resulted in the shooting out in Melrose Park. We're eliminating 17 specific assault weapons. There is no reason why anybody should need an assault weapon to protect themselves or their family,' Obama said. 'We're limiting handgun sales to one a month. 'We're calling for handgun registration. It's very hard right now to track whether or not a felon has turned in his weapons or if he has a FOID card because we don't know how many weapons he has purchased.'" [Chicago Defender, 2/20/01]

Obama Voted To Prohibit Multiple Sales Of Handguns Within A 30-Day Period. In 2003, Obama voted to create the offense of unlawful acquisition of handguns, prohibiting the multiple sales of handguns within a 30-day period. In 2000, Obama was co-sponsor of bill prohibiting the transfer of more than one handgun within a 30-day period. The bill exempted federally licensed firearm dealers who purchase handguns in the regular course of business, military, law enforcement officials and certain hunters. [93rd GA, HB 2579, 5/16/03, 3R L; 23-36-0; 91st GA; SB 1614; 2000]

Obama Disagreed With The NRA That "People Should Be Unimpeded And Unregulated On Gun Ownership;" In Favor Of Handgun Registration And Licensing Requirements. Obama said, "I know that the NRA believes people should be unimpeded and unregulated on gun ownership. I disagree. I do not object to the lawful use and ownership of firearms, but I do think it is entirely it appropriate for the state to monitor it. Too many of these guns end up in the hands of criminals even though they were originally purchased by people who did not have a felony. I'll continue to be in favor of handgun law registration requirements and licensing requirements for training." [Chicago Defender, 7/5/01]

He's a serious gun-grabber right out of the HCI handbook.

9 posted on 06/08/2008 7:01:14 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA)
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I think most people who are involved in 2ndAmendment issues know that Obama is radically anti-2nd Amendment and radically anti-gun, but it can't hurt to review his voting record on 2nd Amendment issues in the Senate and his positions on firearms issues on which he has taken a definite anti-gun stance. If he is elected along with a Democrat Congress our 2nd Amendment rights will be greater risk than ever before.

Think about it carefully before you decide to sit out the election or vote 3rd party. I did, and this issue is one of the main factors that convinced me that I have to hold my nose and vote for McCain after having repeatedly stated on FR that I wouldn't. There is just too much at stake on too many critically important issues in this election for me to indulge my intense dislike for McCain by failing to oppose a far worse threat to my liberties and the liberies of my children and grandchildren.

12 posted on 06/08/2008 7:17:12 AM PDT by epow (The question is not "Is God on America's side." but "Is America on God's side?")
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McCain even agrees with a few of those.

A pox on both their Houses...

15 posted on 06/08/2008 7:23:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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FACT, Fact, FACT, Fact, FACT, Fact, FACT, Fact, etc.

Mere facts will not even faze the O-bots, much less slow them down.

17 posted on 06/08/2008 7:30:09 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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Aren’t you glad that it will be the Roberts Court than hands down the Heller decision in another few weeks?

- John


18 posted on 06/08/2008 7:30:41 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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What puts this in even starker perspective is that he has a VERY thin record of participation while in state legislature - He didn't bother himself to vote or be present on the vast majority of bills -

BUT

He fought veraciously to ban guns and to allow, not just partial birth abortion, but, if a baby managed to get born before the dr. had the change to murder it, leave that little one on a shelf to die.

20 posted on 06/08/2008 7:33:27 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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Hopefully our “never vote for McCain” “conservatives” will remember this when hussein and a democrat congress slams through a new set of gun laws that will make europe look like the wild west.

Once they bypass amendment two, the rest will fall like dominoes.

On the bright side, when hussein and his puppet congress doubles your taxes you’ll get free medicaid to cover the stab wounds you’ll get from gang-bangers if you dare leave your house at after 6pm.


26 posted on 06/08/2008 7:49:23 AM PDT by Liberty 275
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To: Fred Nerks; Beckwith; Candor7

he only favors registration, waiting periods, training requirements, ban on guns that are too cheap, one gun a month, ban on State CCW permits, no gun shop within five miles of a school, AW ban, and a few other trifles.

http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2008/06/at_first_i_thou.php


36 posted on 06/08/2008 8:50:52 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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I STILL don't understand the anti-gun nuts. In what world do they think that keeping guns away from law abiding citizens will actually make it safer by guaranteeing that the predators will be the only one armed?

The second thought I had... are the anti-gun nuts trying to make it safer for the home because accidents do happen? In that case, you must ban every. single. thing. in the house PLUS require padded walls...

because morons will find a way to maim, injure and kill themselves and other with just about anything...

40 posted on 06/08/2008 9:19:26 AM PDT by John123 (Obama said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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Obama? Osama! He is one lying Momma!


41 posted on 06/08/2008 9:20:47 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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The “Candidate of Change” is nothing but an old school gun grabber.

(...not that anyone here is surprised at that news!)


43 posted on 06/08/2008 9:33:11 AM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment: It's not about sporting goods.)
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This is the issue that will cost BO WV, Ohio, Kentucky, and possibly Pa. Gore lost in 2000 because of this single issue and BO is even more radical on the issue IMHO. Any chance there is a list of his actual votes and bill numbers anywhere?


49 posted on 06/08/2008 10:07:51 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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Preaching to the choir. How many here spent their “Economic stimulus” checks on more guns and/or ammo?


50 posted on 06/08/2008 10:14:18 AM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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Community organizer, Like Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton. Weren’t they also community organizers. I guess the job description is mostly teaching the proper techniques for collecting large amounts of food stamps, welfare benefits, and health services aka emergency room visits. While encouraging unwed black mothers to pop out more babies. (aka increased benefits)and at the same time supporting efforts to encourage white women to have more abortions. Don’t forget rallying against those evil guns that kill black youth in large numbers. Remember not to mention that black youth are pulling the triggers on said evil guns. They won’t fire by themselves. I understand Barak Hussein even has a plan for the NRA. He is planning on changing it to mean No Rights Allowed.


53 posted on 06/08/2008 10:45:06 AM PDT by cquiggy
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On ANYTHING, don’t believe Obama!


62 posted on 06/08/2008 1:26:38 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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Every one of the FACTS noted by the NRA-ILA has been well-known for some time yet at their most recent convention they added a Democrat congressman, Dan Boren - OK, to the board. This congressman is a superdelegate that is pledged to support BHO at the convention.

And people on gun boards wonder why more gun owners don’t join the NRA yet can’t see or excuse in some way this basic lack of integrity on the part of the NRA. I really don’t care if Boren has a 100% rating on key legislation or represents his district in its basic conservative nature. When push comes to shove, Nancy Pelosi and her fellow Rats will call the tune for Boren to dance to and dance he will.


69 posted on 06/08/2008 5:19:35 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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