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So it's OK that she wore the hijab in Iraq to protect herself but it's sad that people look funny at her in America.
1 posted on 06/08/2008 10:59:20 AM PDT by rocksblues
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>>So it’s OK that she wore the hijab in Iraq to protect herself but it’s sad that people look funny at her in America.<<

Simple solution - go back to Iraq. Next question and “Don’t get stuck on stupid”.


2 posted on 06/08/2008 11:01:45 AM PDT by NTHockey
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Be honest — how many of you clicked on this thread to see if there was a picture posted of an un-hijabed Iranian hottie? :-)


3 posted on 06/08/2008 11:01:52 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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If she's that thin-skinned about * to wear or not to wear * the hijab then it's best that she return to her home country.

Because when in the United States wear what the women wear... assimilate !!!

cut offs and a tee here...

4 posted on 06/08/2008 11:03:47 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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During WWII Americans might have looked at you funny if you walked around wearing a swastika.

Like it or not, the hijab is strongly supported by those who are trying to kill us, as she herself implies. Wearing it implies support for them.


5 posted on 06/08/2008 11:10:28 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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During WWII Americans might have looked at you funny if you walked around wearing a swastika.

Like it or not, the hijab is strongly supported by those who are trying to kill us, as she herself implies. Wearing it implies support for them.


6 posted on 06/08/2008 11:11:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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Related Thread:

Students Test Public Reactions To Hijab Scarves

 

9 posted on 06/08/2008 11:15:11 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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Return to your homeland, Fatima, and take as many muslims with you as you possibly can.


10 posted on 06/08/2008 11:17:52 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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"We wear it because we are told that it would be a sin not to cover ourselves -- and because we need to be without sin in order to get close to God. Women, we're told, are a source of enticement to men, and we need to be covered so that men won't desire us."

Proof positive that these people don't believe God had the slightest idea what the hell He was doing when He created the universe.

There's a Zarathustrian fable - of dubious origin - that states it well:

Next the knowing fox, taking up the speech said, What superiority in arts doth man possess? The wise Jewânshîr answered. The superiorly of man consisteth in the good dress, and agreeable food and drink which they formerly had, and at the present time in their covering their obscene parts. The wise fox said, In former times your clothes were of wool, and hair, and skins of animals, and still are so. And your sweetest food is from the vomit of the bee ; And animals do not require any covering for their natural parts ; for all that God requires to be covered, is covered ; And, if it be not, God hath not directed it.

11 posted on 06/08/2008 11:21:47 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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She needs to:

1. Wear whatever she wants.

2. Obey laws about masks in public and drivers license pictures and not try change them for her.

3. Leave the rest of us alone.


12 posted on 06/08/2008 11:30:08 AM PDT by JLS
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If she really wants to wear her hijab, she should go back to Iraq. Nobody’s stopping her.


13 posted on 06/08/2008 11:32:08 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Zainab Mineeia, Fulbright scholar, Missouri School of Journalism and Iraqi journalist ( worked as a translator and reporter for The Times in Iraq)
16 posted on 06/08/2008 11:32:49 AM PDT by kcvl
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To many Americans, it is a symbol of religious and sexist oppression.

She herself recognizes the problem in these tyrannical Islamic run nations.

She may not support their tyranny but she is still holding to their restrictive dress code that was even put upon non-muslims.

Could she drive a car in Iran or Iraq? Has she taken on any Western roles that she was prohibited from engaging back home?

Why pick and choose such codes to follow?


17 posted on 06/08/2008 11:34:09 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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It's sad that people here do not always accept you for who you are.

Hey babe, wear or don't wear the damn thing.

Quit your whining.

19 posted on 06/08/2008 11:39:51 AM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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In some ways, it's as bad to feel pressure to take off the hijab in the United States as it is to be pressured to keep it on in Baghdad.

That's horsepoop. Some women get killed in Iraq for not wearing the veil. I seriously doubt she runs the risk of getting killed in America for wearing it.

24 posted on 06/08/2008 11:51:50 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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Now that I’ve reflected on her essay, I think she feels oppressed because American women don’t wear the veil. She’ll only really feel comfortable when all of the women around her wear it. There’s a solution to that - move back to Iraq.


26 posted on 06/08/2008 11:55:29 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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No woman in a free country should wear that degrading clothing.

As free people, of course Americans look at her funny.

29 posted on 06/08/2008 12:08:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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We shouldn't have to hide the fact that we're Muslims in order to be treated like everyone else...It's sad that people here do not always accept you for who you are.

Sorry, but you are NOT like everyone else. Your so-called religion wants everyone else converted, enslaved or dead. Even if you speak out against violent radical Islamics, you are saddled with the taquiyah problem. It is your duty to lie for the advancement of Islam, so nothing you say can be believed if you profess to be a true Muslim.

That is who you are, and you should expect to be treated as such.

30 posted on 06/08/2008 12:09:46 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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“Me and my hijab, walkin’ down the a-ve-nue...”


34 posted on 06/08/2008 12:21:55 PM PDT by quark
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After some months, though, she moved to Massachusetts. One day, she called me, and we talked again about her hijab. This time she talked about the discomfort and sometimes even hostility that people seemed to feel when they met her and saw how she was dressed. "They try to hide it, but it's obvious," she said. She said that although real estate agents were positive over the phone, no one would rent her an apartment once they saw her in person. She explained that a woman from the student housing office had had the audacity to explain to her the way toilets are flushed, "As if my hijab was an anti-intelligence sign," she said. "I spent two days crying."

It seems to me that racism is at its worst in the "enlightened" blue states.

39 posted on 06/08/2008 12:48:31 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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Islam’s Hatred of the Clitoris

By Jamie Glazov
FrontPageMagazine.com

IF YOU HATE WOMEN, and you hate their sexuality, and you are terrified that you cannot control it, the most effective thing you can do is to mutilate female sexual pleasure. This can be done by a sexual lobotomy, which will destroy an essential and sacred part of a woman’s natural makeup. In achieving this feat on all women, you will become able to ruthlessly dominate them.

That’s what female circumcision is all about.

It’s about obliterating the clitoris, or the entire outer vagina. It is the barbarity that exists where misogyny festers most: in the Muslim and African world.

The Muslims are the principal religious group that practice female circumcision. In Egypt, for instance, 97 percent of women are circumcised. Their clitorises are amputated. In countries like Sudan, meanwhile, the women-haters are not so kind: all the women’s external genital organs are completely removed. In a savagery called infibulation, the clitoris, the two major outer lips (labia majora) and the two minor inner lips (labia minora) are amputated.

Nawal El Saadawi has documented these horrifying realities in The Hidden Face of Eve: Women in the Arab World. She demonstrates how the violence of female circumcision is performed on girls anywhere from the ages of one month to puberty. Usually, it is done around the age of seven or eight. Anesthetics are never used. The child is pinned down by several women, while one of them attacks.

After infibulation, the small outer opening of the vagina is the only portion left intact. A tiny piece of wood or reed is inserted to allow urine and menstrual blood to seep out. Extra narrowing of the opening is carried out with stitches, which remain until marriage. The victim’s legs are often bound together from hip to ankle and she is immobile for about a month or two.

This violence has to occur because, in much of the Islamic world, the female’s genital area is considered dirty and unacceptable. For example, in Egypt the uncircumcised girl is called nigsa (unclean). Thus, it has to be made “clean.”

Many of the victims lose their lives during this torture – which is often inflicted with broken glass. Many other victims are afflicted with acute and chronic infections for the rest of their lives.

With serious and disabling lifelong consequences, the mutilation robs women of their equilibrium. It deprives them from enjoying the fullness of their sexuality and the completeness of their lives. In terms of sexual pleasure, for instance, we know that approximately 75 percent of women cannot achieve orgasm without clitoral stimulation. In other words, the possibility of orgasm has been obliterated for tens of millions of women in the Muslim world. So what does it mean if the psychic, mental and physical health of women cannot be complete if they do not experience sexual pleasure?

The terror of the circumcision itself tracks its traumatized victims down like a nightmare. Most, if not all, of these poor women end up suffering from serious sexual and/or mental distortions. The mutilation of their sexual being becomes the epicenter where sex and violence meet constantly in their lives – with them as victims.

Wedding night is often quite eventful. In some parts of the Arab and African world, the husband assaults the wife after the wedding. In Somalia, for instance, the groom beats the bride with a leather whip. After this romantic apex, he cuts the sealed vagina with a sharp scalpel or razor in order to have intercourse. He then has prolonged repeated intercourse with her for a week – to prevent the scarring from closing the vaginal opening again. During this time the wife must lie still and not move. Meanwhile, the husband takes the bloody sharp object, which represents the virginity of his wife, and makes rounds around the community – showing it off for approval. Scholars such as Raphael Patai and Vincent Crapanzano have documented these phenomena.

After this honeymoon period, the woman is now, for the first time in her life, actually recognized as a person – because she has become the extension of her husband. Her status might even improve if she has a child (a boy). She will be humiliated and shamed, however, if she has a non-child (a girl).

And if a little innocent girl enters this world, it will only be a short time before her genitals share the same fate as that of her mother’s. When the torturers and soul-destroyers begin to slice, who will hear her cries?

LINK: http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=FAF491EC-5264-4163-A404-7727E25D8E73


53 posted on 06/08/2008 3:37:40 PM PDT by XR7
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