I'm sure you remember this character !!! Do you remember how candidates from both political parties went to Texas to "kiss his ring" for the next couple of elections.
Posted on 06/08/2008 11:22:50 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
“Might as well join the Nazis or Communists, and then say “Well, I was only supporting some of the issues that they care about.”
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So in your world it was wrong for the Allies to join forces with the Communists to fight the Nazis in WWII. Very strange position to hold.
I notice you have no problem supporting people who take money from, and work to advance Soros’ agenda.
You condemn Bob Barr and Dick Armey who were unpaid associates of the ACLU on one issue, but support McCain who accepts money from radical, leftwing foundations, including the Tides Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Proteus Fund and George Soros and is pushing their radical agenda, and who has Arianna Huffington on his “Reform Institute’s Advisory Board “.
You have a very strange set of values. Apparently you only condemn working with leftists when the goal is to advance freedom and protect Constitutional rights. When it is to trample freedom and Constitutional rights you seem to have no problem with it.
I find your position very odd for someone who calls himself a conservative.
"...In 1999, during Clinton's impeachment trial, Hustler publisher Larry Flynt offered money to anyone who could provide evidence that a prominent Republican had engaged in an extramarital affair. According to the American Journalism Review, "Barr was one of 13 House Republicans chosen to act as prosecutors in Clinton's Senate trial. Barr, Flynt's investigators found, 'was guilty of king-size hypocrisy': An outspoken foe of abortion, the Georgia lawmaker had acquiesced to his then-wife having an abortion in 1983.[2] He had also invoked a legal privilege during his 1985 divorce proceeding so he could refuse to answer questions on whether he'd cheated on his second wife with the woman who is now his third."[2][60]
In any case, if you are really worried about tracking down hypocrites, check out John McCain's record as an anti-tobacco nanny state crusader even while he lived off the proceeds of "Big Beer." This wasn't back in 1983. It is happening now. If you are worried about the one, you should certainly be worried about the other, right?
Well, your quarrel is with Wikipedia and Larry Flynt. I just posted what was written.
I guess wife number 2 did get an abortion if I read your post correctly.
I found it offensive that you ascribed my motives as following those of Larry Flynt.
But Captain Kirk did spend a lot of time in outer space, so perhaps your handle tells me something about your reasoning.
Well, your quarrel is with Wikipedia and Larry Flynt. I just posted what was written.
I guess wife number 2 did get an abortion if I read your post correctly.
I found it offensive that you ascribed my motives as following those of Larry Flynt.
But Captain Kirk did spend a lot of time in outer space, so perhaps your handle tells me something about your reasoning.
“When I walk into a restaurant and they tell me I have my choice of compost crepes or manure muffins and THAT’S IT ! ! ! I’m going to exercise my God given right to get up and leave the restaurant and go to Ruth’s Cris or some place that serves Allen Brother’s steaks.”
You don’t have that option. Oh yes, you can ‘exercise your God given right’ all you want. In this restaurant, you can pick anything off the menu you want. You can even make something up and write it on the ‘menu’. But, when all is said and done, the cook is going to tally the vote and you’re going to get what ever the majority voted for.
Like it or not, you’re going to have either the Obamaburger with Tator Tots or the McCainwich with Fries for dinner for the next four years. Now, you can make a rational choice between the two and only the irrational would claim there is no difference or you can say that you don’t care, let someone else choose for you.
“The RNC is already morally and ideologically bankrupt and IF THEY DON’T CHANGE THE MENU THEY WILL BE FINANCIALLY BANKRUPT and then we can replace them with something of better character.”
Quit blaming the RNC for this situation. The ‘real conservatives’, the ‘principled conservatives’ brought this on themselves by failing to unite behind a single conservative. Oh, I remember how after each primary, when the call arose to ‘vote someone off the island’, all the ‘true and principled conservatives’ insisted that everyone be invited to the next debate. I remember the firery statements here on FreeRepublic ‘if the RNC doesn’t let my candidate into the debates, why I’ll hold my breath and....” Even the ones who couldn’t get enough votes to be elected dogcatcher in a one stop light town.
That great Bogey Man, the RNC doesn’t run the primaries. Those are run by the states parties. The state parties set the rules, not the RNC. The RNC doesn’t decide who gets to run in the primaries. That’s up to the candidates. The RNC doesn’t determine who wins. That’s up to the voters. In fact, if you want to blame anyone for this mess, then blame the voters.
“If a conservative voter cannot bring themselves to vote for McCain, how in the world could they vote for Obama?”
Since only McCain or Obama will be the next President, they can either state a preference between those two or let the rest of the voters decide for them.
“As someone else so eloquently said before, “Just because you can’t have a completely sterile operating room, doesn’t mean you should perform surgery in a sewer.””
What an interesting analogy. It’s the ‘principled conservatives’ insisting on a completely sterile operating room. Or, as someone else so eloquently said before: “The lesser of two contaiminated operating rooms is still contaiminated.”
“I swallowed their 5h!+ sandwiches too many times. MacCain was the last straw (or turd).”
Why are you attempting to blame the ‘GOP’? The ‘GOP’ didn’t select McCain. The GOP voters selected him through a democratic process. Why not condemn those who really made the selection, those who really prepared that sandwich for you, the voters?
What goes around comes around. McCain cannot expect to get all the votes of former elected Republican congressman wives. If I am to believe Ariana Huffington, Bush did not even get all the sitting Republican Senator’s votes in 2000. It is not that I am ever likely to ever believe Huffington, but I am not likely to believe the RINO relic after he went from McCain-Kennedy Amnesty to I got it, secure the borders first, back to LaRaza and amnesty.
No. The GOP did NOT select MacCain. George Soros and the crossover democrats and independents did. God willing, the GOP powers that be wil recognize what a mistake keeping him will be to themselves and the country and find some "codicil" or something that gives them a way to find a real conservative to run instead.
“God willing, the GOP powers that be wil recognize what a mistake keeping him will be to themselves and the country and find some “codicil” or something that gives them a way to find a real conservative to run instead.”
So now the ‘real conservatives’ advocating overturning elections so their man wins? Algore would be so proud.
Oh, by no means am I advocating overturning the results of the election. I'm advocating overturning the results of the primary. Big difference.
“Oh, by no means am I advocating overturning the results of the election. I’m advocating overturning the results of the primary. Big difference.”
Horsehockey! People went to the polls and exercised their right to vote. Now, you want to overule their votes just because you don’t like the results. Zimbabee anyone?
It’s a political party. They can do what they want, Nancy.
Bob Barr
Bob Barr currently occupies the 21st Century Liberties Chair for Freedom and Privacy at the American Conservative Union Foundation, and serves as a board member of the National Rifle Association. He is also the president and CEO of Liberty Strategies, a firm he founded to assist individuals, organizations and governments in formulating and implementing strategies to achieve their goals in the public policy arena. From 1993 to 2003, Barr represented the 7th District of Georgia in the U.S. House of Representatives, serving as a senior member of the Judiciary Committee, as Vice Chairman of the Government Reform Committee, and as a member of the Committee on Financial Services.
Since you think the RNC can “do what they want”, how would you react if the RNC were to overturn the selection of (your favorite conservative) in favor of someone else? How would you react? Would you think that fair?
“As an independent conservative, now long grown accustomed to the mediocrity that has come to characterize the RNC also, I couldn’t care less.”
If you’re an ‘independent conservative’ who couldn’t “care less”, then why did you post this: “God willing, the GOP powers that be wil recognize what a mistake keeping him will be to themselves and the country and find some “codicil” or something that gives them a way to find a real conservative to run instead.”
I couldn’t care less if they screw around with their rules, Nancy. They’re a political party. They can do what they damn well please.
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