Posted on 06/08/2008 3:40:57 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick
“If a foreign student marries a citizen, that’s a different matter, but making a baby with another foreigner won’t keep him in this country.”
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We should tell Mexicans this.
But even if it doesn’t work (I think it does often work, actually), that WAS their plot. And that couple are in Iowa today, and have never been back to China.
But even if it doesn’t work (I think it does often work, actually), that WAS their plot.”
I'd love to hear from you how this works. How does having a child in America keep two aliens on student visas in this country? And for that matter, how does it keep Mexican illegals in this country? Please explain how this process works.
“And that couple are in Iowa today, and have never been back to China.”
They were probably able to get some sort of work visas. That happens. I was just talking a moment ago to a South Korean who came here on a student visa back in 2001, got authorization to work, and then his employer helped him apply for a green card. It wasn't an easy process, certainly not as easy as the process would have been had he have just married a U.S. citizen and had her file an I-130 Petition for Alien Relative along with his I-485 Application to register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status. Having a baby with another alien would not have helped him though. What you hear about “anchor babies” is a lot more rhetoric than reality.
So, you don’t believe that illegal immigrants are using anchor babies as a means to remain in the States.
Well your post seems to actually agree with my argument that people can use student visas as a first step in a long range plan to stay in the States. If the Korean can do it (even if that was NOT his original intention), this gets known back in Korea, and it encourages other people to try using student visas as a first step. It is the same for those from China.
Now the couple in Iowa are obviously there now on a legal status. But it began with a lot of lying and deception, and continued that way for years. He began by lying about his intentions to the interviewer in Beijing.
Well, no, I do not believe that illegal aliens are using “anchor babies” as a means of staying in the United States. If two illegals have a child in this country that child will be a citizen. That is true under our current law. It is also true that a citizen can apply for a visa and for an immediate relative and help that immediate relative get a green card. The catch is that the citizen must be at least 21 years of age to do this. An “anchor baby” can't file anything for his parents. Illegal aliens with citizen children get deported all the time and most of the time they end up bringing their “anchor babies” with them, unless they want to leave them behind with other relatives or something like that.
It's just a myth that these people can swim across the Rio Grande and have a baby and that “anchor baby” will keep them here. People from other countries do use all sorts of tricks to get to come over here and stay over here. I am not disputing that. But coming over here and having a baby will not somehow make an alien eligible for a green card or some other legal basis to stay. The child cannot help his parents stay in the U.S., but when he grows up he can sponsor his parents and other close relatives for entry into this country and help them get green cards which will help them eventually become citizens.
Back to people coming over on student visas who are really looking for a way to stay in the U.S., do you know why people find tricky ways to get into the United States and get their green cards and eventually their citizenship? They do this because in many cases this is the only way they can immigrate to the U.S.. If you are a citizen of another country unless you have an immediate relative who is a citizen, and brothers and sisters are not immediate relatives according to our screwy immigration laws, odds are you'll never get an immigrant visa. If you are a married adult child of a citizen or if you have a citizen brother or sister it might take you 15 or 20 years or longer to get an immigrant visa. It's expensive to come here and there are all sorts of hurdles that in many cases are insurmountable. Immigrant visas generally are not granted unless the people who wish to immigrate have close relatives in the U.S. who sponsor them. Employment visas and student visas of course are not immigrant visas, they're temporary type visas. But people come over here all the time on these visas hoping to somehow make the U.S. their permanent home, and a lot of them figure out how to do it. It may not be a particularly honest thing to do, but for most who do it it's probably the only way they'd ever be able to immigrate. I have to admit that if I lived in a crappy place like China I might do the same thing. Would you if you were a citizen of some hellhole country and you had no other way to immigrate to the United States?
Are you then a defender of illegal immigration?
No.
We are in “crappy” China right now. Not nearly as “crappy” as it was 10 years ago, by the way.
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