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Firing Offense (Air Force Tanker deal)
Townhall ^ | 6/9/08 | Frank Gaffney

Posted on 06/09/2008 3:26:04 PM PDT by pissant

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Good job, Mr. Gaffney.
1 posted on 06/09/2008 3:31:03 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Protests very very rarely work, but then theres always hope.


2 posted on 06/09/2008 3:41:35 PM PDT by driftdiver
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I was wondering if the tanker contract deal had anything to do with the firings and suspected it did but this is the first piece I’ve read on it. I believe Gaffney lays out a good case for it.


3 posted on 06/09/2008 3:45:38 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: driftdiver

True. There are politicos fighting on both sides as well.


4 posted on 06/09/2008 3:51:21 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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I don’t think Frank is saying this is why they were fired, rather that it was another reason they should have been.


5 posted on 06/09/2008 3:52:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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I think the politicos should be investigated for undue influence on the original award. Otherwise there was no reason Boeing shouldn’t have won.


6 posted on 06/09/2008 3:59:56 PM PDT by driftdiver
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I agree and didn’t mean to imply it was the only reason, just one of them. It’s been quite a while since the nuke fiasco but with the reported foot dragging on the UAV’s it all caught up with them.


7 posted on 06/09/2008 4:02:10 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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If it’s not Boeing, then it’s not flowing.


8 posted on 06/09/2008 4:21:34 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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The tanker deal was a political payoff to france. Pure and simple.


9 posted on 06/09/2008 4:33:18 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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What did we get in return?


10 posted on 06/09/2008 4:34:15 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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I believe Gaffney lays out a good case for it.

It's always possible to lay out a good case if you clinton the facts

11 posted on 06/09/2008 4:40:38 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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That decision was one of the biggest stinkers of all time. Kudos to Gates and finally somewhere down the line to Bush for hiring him.

Bush’s decisions have gotten much better since that jackass Rummy left.


12 posted on 06/09/2008 4:41:35 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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They don’t care about the facts.


14 posted on 06/09/2008 5:34:19 PM PDT by Perdogg (McCain for President, 2008)
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What did we get in return?

An inferior tanker. I would add someone got a pocket full of cash.

15 posted on 06/09/2008 5:41:15 PM PDT by afnamvet
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Frank Gaffney is just a nobody when it comes to defense issues, I reckon.

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/Home.aspx?SID=75


16 posted on 06/09/2008 5:46:59 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Anyone working acquisition knows the SAFE route was for the USAF to pick Boeing. That they didn’t is a strong indication the process was clean - they had to CLEARLY believe EADS built the better tanker, or they wouldn’t have invited all this trouble for themselves.

I don’t believe for a moment the acquisition folks said, “Let’s throw ourselves on a buzzsaw for fun!”


17 posted on 06/09/2008 5:55:01 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (No matter who wins the Presidency, it will be an enemy of the Constitution...)
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Yes, maybe we should just give Boeing $200 billion a year directly from the Treasury and cut out the middle man. Amazing propaganda work, how completely “What’s good for Boeing is good for America” has become unquestionable conservative popular wisdom.


18 posted on 06/09/2008 5:56:05 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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There was no good reason to pick EADS. They were undoubtedly pressured to do so.


19 posted on 06/09/2008 5:57:06 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Who would put more pressure on them than they KNEW Congress would?

Sorry, but they had nothing to gain from picking EADS.


20 posted on 06/09/2008 5:59:37 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (No matter who wins the Presidency, it will be an enemy of the Constitution...)
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