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Thomas Friedman finds nothing but Obama-lovers in Egypt and thinks that's somehow news!!
1 posted on 06/11/2008 12:49:03 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

Dear Mr. Friedman,

Do you actually think this is news? OF COURSE everyone in the world who wants to see America weakened loves Obambi. He is the ideal candidate for every America-hater out there.

btw, the War on Terror did not “swallow up” America — only socialist weasels want to see this country further weakened by the scum of Islamo-fascism that you seem to be so friendly with.....


2 posted on 06/11/2008 12:51:21 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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Yes, the biggest issue in this election is getting people in far-flung countries with vastly different national interests from our to LIKE us. Nothing else matters.

(sarcasm)


3 posted on 06/11/2008 12:52:24 PM PDT by cvq3842
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VDH body slams Friedman's idiocy today:

A Weird Sort of Racial Chauvinism [Victor Davis Hanson]

A common trope of many pundits is that when they travel overseas now, they begin to tingle when those abroad, especially in the so-called former Third World, press them on Obama’s chances. Then the now banal theme follows: the Middle Easterner, African, South American, etc. tells the American pundit that he can't believe an America would pick a (fill in the blank) — former Muslim, person of color, man with Hussein as a middle name, etc. — and that suddenly this liberality has restored his faith in the United States.

Then the pundit, straining to be fair, usually says he doesn't know whether Obama could change things as much as his foreign admirers imagine, but at least this is an exciting time (finally) to once again be American. Indeed, the argument that an Obama presidency would appeal to our critics overseas and prove our liberality is becoming a powerful reason to vote for Obama for many of our elites.

Aside from the obvious point that we should not pick our presidents on the basis of whether those in mostly autocratic, non-democratic societies approve, there is something very tribal and racialist about all this chauvinism.

If a white male Christian of European ancestry were suddenly a likely successor to the Mubarak dictatorship, or were next in line to take over the Mugabe kleptocracy, or were stealing Venezuela from Hugo Chavez, or were going to be elected the next leader of South Africa, it would be of less than zero importance to me, and I would hope to other Americans of similar backgrounds. And I think most of us would shudder should an Englishman or Australian say “I just hope your next President is another white male Christian like McCain.” I was in Greece in 1988 when the socialist liberal Greeks went ga-ga over Mike Dukakis solely on the basis on his shared ethnic background and it seemed pretty absurd, especially when many promised they would change their dark view of Reagan's America if a Greek-American were elected President.

So, one, I don't see what is so great when a foreigner tells an American journalist that his view of America might change should we elect a person closer to his own perceived racial or religious self-image. Seems instead illiberal, tribal, and retrograde. And two, if Egyptians, Iranians, Congolese, or Bolivians want real changes in their own lives, then they should look to their own autocratic systems, not the United States that can do little to alleviate their mostly self-inflicted miseries other than to continue to shell out hundreds of billions in petrodollars and ever more humanitarian aid.

06/11 01:43 PM

4 posted on 06/11/2008 12:54:28 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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unusually revealing to be in Egypt as Barack Hussein Obama became the Democrats’ nominee for president of the United States

OMG!! Now I am shocked! The NYT actually printed his full name.

5 posted on 06/11/2008 12:57:34 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Proud to be one of the 10% not rallying around McCain)
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My Moroccan friend was back home last month and came back to report that most people she knew over there supported Hillary. They didn’t seem to like Obama at all.


6 posted on 06/11/2008 1:01:22 PM PDT by twigs
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Egyptians are amazed, excited and agog that America might elect a black man whose father’s family was of Muslim heritage...

Don't read too much into that.


Caption above the pictures of Obama and Hillary reads, “‘Hillary’ and ‘Obama’ – A Woman and a Negro are Participating in the Campaign for the American Presidency”

The religious man in the foreground is saying: "This is another sign of the collapse of the Western civilization"

This cartoon was published in the second oldest daily newspaper in the Arab world, Al-Ahram published in Egypt.

7 posted on 06/11/2008 1:02:33 PM PDT by Polybius
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Friedman always does that—writes about something as though it’s been revealed to him by a higher power that everyone else has known for ages. Master of the Obvious.


8 posted on 06/11/2008 1:03:59 PM PDT by FreedomForce (A conservative 2012)
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We are reaping the rewards and punishment for succumbing to our sense of romanticism...born from centuries of great heroes of literature; Lawrence of Arabia, Othello, combined with 80 years of silver screen heroes, Jimmy Stewart,Gary Cooper, John Wayne, Denzel Washington, Clint Eastwood.

We expected President Bush to be Gary Cooper and he isn’t. Some people wanted Hillary to be Doris Day and unfortunately she is married to Mickey Rooney. Now, some movie morons are projecting all their aspirations for a present day Martin Luther King on a young man who shares only one thing with that icon - the color of his skin.

He has no hereditary connection, no religious affiliation, no hard trials - only the benefits of those whose real-life struggle he has never known. He is, in a word, Hollow Wood.


9 posted on 06/11/2008 1:19:07 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Enchante

I suspect that the Egyptian man on the street understands Obama better than Friedman does.


10 posted on 06/11/2008 1:28:28 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Thomas Friedman is so yesterday!

Wait till all the young voters find out the latest scoop on Obama! He STILL SMOKES CIGARETTES!! Oh, the horror!


11 posted on 06/11/2008 1:32:26 PM PDT by Palladin (Pfooey on Pfleger!)
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Obama, who was raised a Christian....

No he was not raised a Christian.

16 posted on 06/11/2008 1:57:37 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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