Posted on 06/11/2008 6:04:18 PM PDT by forkinsocket
WINNIPEG - A case of two youngsters seized from a couple suspected of being racist has raised the question of how far parents can go in teaching their children what they think is right.
"I think it's really a tough issue," Harvey Frankel, a professor of social work at the University of Manitoba, said Monday.
"I'm not aware of the courts giving a whole lot of guidance here in (this) area of child welfare."
A seven-year-old girl and a boy, 2, were recently taken by child welfare workers from a home in south Winnipeg after the girl showed up at school with "hate-related drawings on her body," police Const. Blair Good said Monday. Good would not confirm a media report that quoted unnamed sources as saying the girl was sporting a swastika and a white supremacy slogan.
Manitoba Child and Family Services is before the courts looking to obtain permanent guardianship of the children. The move is based partly on "concerns that the parents' conduct might endanger the emotional well-being of the children ... and that the children may be at risk of harm due to the parents' behaviour and associations," according to an affidavit from a child welfare worker.
The affidavit also says "there were concerns regarding drug and alcohol use."
A Crown lawyer is reviewing the case to see whether criminal charges are warranted.
The couple, who cannot be named under provincial law, were not reachable at their home Monday. They have not yet filed affidavits outlining their position.
Manitoba guidelines allow child welfare workers to investigate any situation where there is concern for the safety or well-being of a child, including cases involving "religious or political practices ... if those practices could be harmful to the child," said Nadine Delisle, communications co-ordinator for Family Services and Housing.
Whether a judge would permanently remove kids from parents with racist beliefs could be a different matter, according to Frankel.
"It's tough for me to imagine parents who are preaching sort of a neo-Nazi philosophy to also be providing a safe, nurturing environment for their child. This is a philosophy that talks about hate, talks about much of the world being a dangerous place," he said.
"At the same, time, I don't think just on the face of it, you can say it's an environment that requires you to remove the child. Kids grow up in all sorts of situations that you or I or someone may not agree with."
A hearing is set for later this month that could determine who will care for the children.
“talks about much of the world being a dangerous place”
In some parts of the world, there is even a danger that government thugs will kidnap your children, simply because you don’t share the socialist ideals of the government thugs. I know its hard to believe, but dangerous places like that actually exist. Like Texas, Canada.....
Luckily I hate everyone so this will never be a problem.
Guarenteed this ONLY happens to white parents with white children.
I’m sure liberal infested Canada is just like (if not worse) than the US where the only racist people are whites.
Just think: B. Hussein Obama’s kids could be taken away because they attended Jeremiah Wright’s “hate church” for years, and listened to momma Michelle rant against Whitey!
LOL.
Just think, in a sane world the rules would apply to everyone but it doesn’t.
Obama is black (half-white actually but that doesn’t matter) so he gets a *get away with racsim free* card that the MSM hands out to blacks and white liberal elites.
What the parents were doing to those kids if true was child abuse. Bringing them up to be white supremacists. No sympathy for the parents I’m afraid. And saying that the government are ‘socialist thugs’ who want to impose their ideology on the parents is ridiculous. To a certain extent, a country’s government has to impose it’s fundamental social values of their society above those who think they have the right to turn their kids into complete whackos.
That should also include fundamentalist muslims as well btw....
Scarey thought that they will take your kids because they don’t approve of your beliefs. First they start with this, how long until they come for other beliefs the sate doesn’t approve of?
You are now on double secret probation. Watch your step.
sate=state. I dunt poof wread too weel!
So, family services can remove kids from a family if they don’t like the family’s religious practices or politics? Hmm, fighting neo-Nazi’s with Nazi-esque tactics. I’m sure that will have a happy outcome.
This, folks, is what hate crimes legislation is ultimately all about: the elimination of political opposition to Left-wing politics via the “They’re haters!” rationale. The totalitarian streak that runs through Liberal politics is in full view here.
Do you trust the government to decide if your values are or are not those of a “complete wacko”? To the point of giving that government the power to take your children away?
Every other parent in Oakland, CA is teaching their kids to hate whitey.
“Every other parent in Oakland, CA is teaching their kids to hate whitey.”
But you don’t understand they are part of the left approved thought process, this will only apply to “certain” hate directed at “specific” groups.
Disagree. Empowering the government to seize the children even if perhaps justified here is a disaster. If they can do it in this case, they can do it because the family are Christians and don’t support homosexuality or the family teaches that socialism is wrong or that communism is evil.
Values like owning guns.
Obama’s church too.
This is tyranny, pure and simple, and it's coming to a social services agency near you.
Since they are obviously even handed, fair and non-discriminatiry, it looks like social services in Canada will be up to their eyeballs in children they have taken from hate-filled practicing Muslim families.
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