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To: Noumenon
What caliber did you get?

I picked up a used P230 in .380 for $225.00. As a matter of fact I just returned from the range with it.

Now no knocking my choice of caliber ya' hear?

At 21 feet I can put the whole mag in the K5 area of a police sillouhette target strong hand, and 4 out of 7 in the same area weak hand.

I bought it because it's small and very concealable. It slides right into my fanny pack and 2 spare mags fit quite easily into my pants pocket.

In this manner I can completely comply with IL laws which say that any firearm must be 'unloaded and completely enclosed in a case' yet be available for use in about 5 seconds. Not ideal, but it's the best I can do right now.

I also took the opportunity to put a few hundred through the new Springield XD-45 compact I picked up last month. I put a LaserMax on that one.

The XD is one sweet shooting little pistol. It ate everything I fed it from hardball to 185 gr HP's, to 200 gr HP's, and 230 gr HP's flawlessly.

It ain't as perty as a 1911, but it's got some neat design features. In the 'compact' configuration it holds 10 rounds of .45 ACP. But with just a mag change it becomes a full size 'Service' model holding 13 rounds.

At 35 feet using the laser I can keep that entire mag inside an area the size of my hand. At 21 feet, well it ain't even fair.

4 guys and one young lady wanted to shoot it. I told 'em as long as they were feeding it their ammo to have fun. I wanted to work with my new OSIGD pistol.

The 230 ate hardball just fine. I also put a box of that Glaser Powrball through it. Not a single hiccup.

I'm going to retire the Bulldog as my "Best I Can Do Right Now" carry piece and use the Sig. I know the .44 spl has a lot more ooomph to it, but the semi-auto Sig is much faster to load.

The ballistic tests on the Glaser ammo seem decent enough considering the cartridge. I'll take 8 to 9 inches of penetration with reliable expansion.

Now all we have to do is get the lawsuits filed to bring IL into compliance with the Heller decision and we'll have open carry. After all, Justice Scalia did specifically point out the "AND BEAR" portion of the 2nd.

And the Editorial Board of the Trib are not only treasonous, their f****** stupid, too. They don't realize that repealing the 2nd would have absolutely NO effect on the fact that I have a right to arms.

But I'm going to stop by Colonel McCormicks mansion this afternoon and see if he's reached 30,000 rpm in his grave yet. Were he alive he'd fire every single one of 'em.

I'm going to pen a review of the Springfield and post it here. I'll ping you to it when I've got it finished.

Best,

L

23 posted on 06/28/2008 2:13:07 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Lurker
No fuss over the caliber from me. My 'summer carry' is a good old (or maybe it's guten alt) Walther PPKs. Sure, it's a piece of finicky German engineering. Run a couple of mags through it and it's ready for a cleaning if you want it to function reliably. And when you take it down for a thorough cleaning, do it in a large plastic bag or a class 10 clean room, as you will never find some of the little springs that are bound to pop out and fly God knows where.

Having said all of that - the PPKs has such a natural point in my hands that I could put one up a perp's nostril at 15 feet easily. Milk jug sized objects are dead bang gone at 30 feet. So the point is that the accuracy and the handling go a long ways towards making the .380 a an effective caliber for soft targets and up close and personal. Especially with the right ammo. That same is why your SIG is such a gem. If I had the spare change, I'd love to have one for myself. SIGs are utterly reliable in ways that the Walther is not, especialyl after the first two magazines. I've run thousands or rounds through my 229 in .40 with nary a hiccup.

24 posted on 06/28/2008 3:12:55 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.)
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