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Temperatures Rise In IL Town Over Window-Mounted Air Conditioner Ban
All Headline News ^ | June 13, 2008 | Vittorio Hernandez

Posted on 06/14/2008 5:06:48 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It will be a hot summer in this Chicago neighbor this year, not only because of the rising temperature but a ban on window-mounted air conditioner units.

Blimey!

Good thing we don't live there. Central air is not in the budget for a couple of years yet.

61 posted on 06/14/2008 8:46:53 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: theymakemesick; Sherman Logan; muawiyah

Are you talking about a regular window unit, or one that is physically split between evaporator (indoors) and condensor (outdoors) and compressor (one place or the other) with extended freon lines between the two?

I think Sherman and I are talking about the kind that whose mechanism (compressor, evaporator, condensor, two blowers) entirely indoors (usually in a big box on casters) and it has only a large airhose that goes to the window.

Muwiyah got one of these whose hose had two channels in it, which allowed there to be an entirely separate outside air circuit, which is how I assumed they were all built.

Sherman’s unit evidently wasn’t built this way, which would have to be, unfortunately, a ripoff.


62 posted on 06/15/2008 12:49:54 AM PDT by Erasmus (I invited Benoit Mandelbrot to the Shoreline Grill, but he never quite made it.)
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To: osagebowman
Thanks for the link, OB.

I learnt my thing for the day and it's only 3 AM. Now I don't have to worry about learning anything for another 21 hours.

≤}B^)

63 posted on 06/15/2008 1:01:03 AM PDT by Erasmus (I invited Benoit Mandelbrot to the Shoreline Grill, but he never quite made it.)
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To: Erasmus
You have to watch these guys closely, Fur Shur. Also price ~ higher prices don't necessarily count as a guide to quality or capacity when it comes to the portables. You can spend as little as $300 on a really high quality, but low capacity system, or $1,000 for an improperly designed, high capacity unit that will run up your electric bill like no one's business.

The focus should not be on "hiding the unit" from building management, or the town's fascist league. Rather, figure out what you need. If it's just for some cool air around your easy chair in the evening, get something that gives you just that.

If you want to cool the whole house, get a central unit - not a portable.

64 posted on 06/15/2008 6:56:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Erasmus
You have to watch these guys closely, Fur Shur. Also price ~ higher prices don't necessarily count as a guide to quality or capacity when it comes to the portables. You can spend as little as $300 on a really high quality, but low capacity system, or $1,000 for an improperly designed, high capacity unit that will run up your electric bill like no one's business.

The focus should not be on "hiding the unit" from building management, or the town's fascist league. Rather, figure out what you need. If it's just for some cool air around your easy chair in the evening, get something that gives you just that.

If you want to cool the whole house, get a central unit - not a portable.

65 posted on 06/15/2008 6:56:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Alice in Wonderland
Note, regarding "surviving" - there were plenty of sick folk and the elderly with impaired body-heat control who did die.

Air Conditioning was invented by a fellow in Louisiana concerned for the health of his very sick patients.

66 posted on 06/15/2008 6:58:59 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LasVegasMac
approved by the village board in March...

Wonder why they didn't wait till August?

Oh yeah, future headline from Addison:

"200 Elderly Die in Heatwave, Global Warming Blamed"
67 posted on 06/15/2008 7:00:49 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: rawhide; Alice in Wonderland
I agree, that is an easy workaround to the ban.

Workaround? Are you kidding me? That's is the kind of thinking that's led us down this lovely garden path.

Workaround? How about the people of Addison grow a set and take their rights back?

68 posted on 06/15/2008 7:18:05 AM PDT by dbwz
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Here's the bonehead's website....

Mayor Hartwig

69 posted on 06/15/2008 7:23:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: dbwz
This is a town where landscape regulations defines plant heights. I'll go out on a limb here and say that clotheslines are probably limited to side and rear windows also.


70 posted on 06/15/2008 8:56:17 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: muawiyah
Just guessing, but I'd think a Louisiana summer is a bit different than one in Chicago.

There's nothing wrong with air conditioning. I have central AC and love it.

But I spent my first fifty years in NYC pre-war apartment buildings. Before the days of air conditioning, many apartment buildings were designed to provide cross-ventilation through opened windows. Most apartments have several exposures. My last apartment faced east, south, and west. The western windows faced the street and air conditioners were not allowed on that side. It was to make the building look pretty. So I had an AC unit in an east window and a clothesline in a south window. It worked just fine.

The art of air conditioners . . .


71 posted on 06/15/2008 9:20:06 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Erasmus

The portable has the evap/condense coils in the same cabinet along with the fan, only a dryer-hose type pipe exits to the outside; the warm, moist air is drawn indoors through the myriad crevices always present in the walls and around windows.

They do make room sized split units but the condensor section is visible to the outside world.


72 posted on 06/15/2008 9:29:54 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: osagebowman

Your link calls them split units and then concludes that they discharge condesate water outside; the water condenses on the cold coil - the evaporator?

I bought a house with oil heat and a furnace indoors adjacent the garage in an alcove; come summer the house became unbearably hot around midnight as the sucked-up heat in the red brick veneer began to radiate to the interior.

A quick trip to Montgomery Wards, a few hours spent in a 130F attic and one weekend later I was the proud owner of a central cooled home.

Everything went according to plan right up to the time the evaporator coil started dripping onto the concrete floor with no drain.

Like any good DYR’, I dragged a 35 gallon galvanized trashcan over under the drain pipe and went to bed.

The next morning I went out to the garage to confront 250 pounds of fresh H2O.

Back to the store for some hose and a small pump and the whole thing worked flawlessly right up to the day the mama racoon took up residence under the condenser slab - but that’s another story.


73 posted on 06/15/2008 9:44:14 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Check the properties on that pic; it came from Venice, not Chicago.


74 posted on 06/15/2008 9:49:18 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
And the picture in post #71 is New York City, not Chicago.

So what?

75 posted on 06/15/2008 9:53:26 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Old Professer

I know one guy around here who has his mini-split in the attic; our compressors are outside, and we had the contractor put in drain tubes and we catch the water and use it on our landscaping.


76 posted on 06/15/2008 11:08:56 AM PDT by osagebowman
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