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Sons of Confederate Veterans have their own simmering civil war
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 06/14/2008 | Andrew Meacham

Posted on 06/15/2008 9:40:43 AM PDT by iowamark

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To: Anti-Bubba182
Excellent article, do you have anything newer on this Morris guy who seems to be a Reverend Wright twin when it comes to race baiting and enabling for dollars.
21 posted on 06/15/2008 10:46:57 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMATIZATION - A Liberals Religion ABORTION-The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: BigCinBigD
Err....liberal hate pays...big time.
22 posted on 06/15/2008 10:48:13 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMATIZATION - A Liberals Religion ABORTION-The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: iowamark
Experts say the divisions within the Sons vary between two extremes. On one side are the traditionalists, members who focus on cleaning up Confederate grave sites and conducting Civil War re-enactments.

On the other side are the so-called Lunatics, up to 2,000 members who deride traditionalists as "grannies'' and belong to camps named after notorious Southern figures such as John Wilkes Booth and Jesse James.


Hmmm, imagine that...
23 posted on 06/15/2008 10:58:17 AM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Taking Congress back in 2008
My guess is that a lot of these "heritage" types would not even know what this flag is.

If you're lumping SCV members into that, my guess is that you're badly mistaken.

24 posted on 06/15/2008 11:07:52 AM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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To: iowamark; All

Why does anybody care what the Southern Poverty Law Center thinks?
This is one of the main problems we have in the United States. That is to let other people define us. It does not matter if it is people on the upper west side of Manhattan or people in the beltway or in that school in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
We must find ways of preserving our history and heritage and civilization. The people at the NY Times or the Washington Post are in the business of destroying our civilization. And as for Hollywood, well I think anyone who does not see their agenda is totally blind.
This is a very difficult task. It will take a lot of sacrifice and dedication. We need to be smart about it. We are not a racist group. I like to hear some suggestions.


25 posted on 06/15/2008 11:14:03 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: iowamark

I dropped out when there was a hostile takeover at the national level. I didn’t like where things were heading.


26 posted on 06/15/2008 11:16:44 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: iowamark
I live in a state that did not even exist at the time of the Civil War, and in a town that was founded by Union veterans.

But recently the SCV established a "park" in our town dedicated to an important figure in the Confederacy. Here they fly the Confederate flag. The site for the "park" was chosen to be adjacent to and highly visible from a major highway.

It's clear that that the purpose of this park is not only to celebrate "heritage" but to be an "in your face" affront to those not particularly sympathetic with the Confederacy.

27 posted on 06/15/2008 11:19:57 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: ArchAngel1983

”The Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group in and of itself.”

But don’t forget; there is ‘good hate’ and there is ‘bad hate’.

Could we say state sponsored hate?


28 posted on 06/15/2008 11:32:34 AM PDT by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: iowamark

Southern Poverty Law Center , pfffffffftttttttttttttt.

They’d consider me a hate group.


29 posted on 06/15/2008 11:35:00 AM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Steamburg
”The Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group in and of itself.”

But don’t forget; there is ‘good hate’ and there is ‘bad hate’.

Could we say state sponsored hate?

We could certainly say state sanctioned hate…

30 posted on 06/15/2008 11:37:48 AM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: rockrr

Does that surprise you? Especially the lunatic label?


31 posted on 06/15/2008 11:48:43 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: wideminded

I have’t been found of the majority of those that want to fly the rebel flag, most of them are raciest, and I would like to see a federal law to keep them from flying it, never the less I would like to see the above instituted with the exceptions for historical spots of the confederates etc. but make them fly the official flag of the confederacy of that time that they existed in the time line that the spot etc became famous. and not the rebel flag unless they can make a good historical argument to fly St. Andrews Cross.


32 posted on 06/15/2008 11:49:31 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: iowamark
Trying to beat down the black man again.


33 posted on 06/15/2008 12:07:21 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: ReformedBeckite
"I have’t been found of the majority of those that want to fly the rebel flag, most of them are raciest, and I would like to see a federal law to keep them from flying it",=

The US flag represented a Slave Nation for 80 years. Should we outlaw it also?


34 posted on 06/15/2008 12:11:06 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: OKIEDOC
Basically, Dees is on the lecture circuit now. SPLC is following their successful formula, expanding to illegal immigration opponents, traditional Catholics etc.

Southern Poverty Law Center Pushes Twisted Definition of 'Hate' (2006)

Gaza in Arizona: How "Civil Rights" Lawyer Morris Dees Seized American Land For Illegal Aliens (2005)

Dee's Divorce Brief (1979 Old but revealing)

I think the text of the above is probably part of an accurate copy of what what was filed or Dee's would have sued or demanded it be taken down. (Warning graphic!)

35 posted on 06/15/2008 1:19:28 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Rebelbase
The US flag represented a Slave Nation for 80 years. Should we outlaw it also?

Ok give me a break, opinions in the US have changed considerable since that antique page you posted, besides I think many Godly confederates would of had nothing to do with the Klansmen, and I'll go out on a limb and proclaim the average man in the south today is probably more Godly then those 50-150 years ago, but that's an objective view point that can be argued to the cows come home.

36 posted on 06/15/2008 4:23:19 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: ReformedBeckite

“Ok give me a break, opinions in the US have changed considerable since that antique page you posted,”

Yet it was only 20 or so years ago that the Confederate flag started to being demonized by the media as representing “hate”.


37 posted on 06/15/2008 4:31:03 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: iowamark

Morris Dees has a small pee-pee.

(This no doubt qualifies as ‘hate speech’ according to Dees)

Easy to solve...AR15’s at 100 yards.

Got balls Dees?


38 posted on 06/15/2008 4:33:32 PM PDT by x1stcav (McCain for President. Or we're really screwed.)
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To: rockrr

Sounds like FR, doesn’t it?


39 posted on 06/15/2008 10:38:44 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

The Lunatics are winning.


40 posted on 06/15/2008 10:48:38 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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