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To: AndyJackson
1. What is your problem with according these detainees an habeas corpus hearing? I don't get it. I really don't.

No problem if they get it in a military court at Guantanamo
You must be asleep. You haven't noticed that Kalid Sheik Muhammad is trying to turn his trial into a circus?
All these pukes need to be tried in military courts
The liberal lawyers want them tried in civilian courts on US soil and turned into media circuses

2. In past wars we have allowed frequent Red Cross visitors access to POW camps AS HAVE OUR ENEMIES. 

Red Cross has often been to Gitmo. So what

--And confinement has not been for 6 years without any prospect of resolution.

They would have been put through military courts and tribunals years ago. You get one guess who has been holding this all up

ANSWER: The same liberal lawyer brigade that just prevailed at the Supreme Court

44 posted on 06/15/2008 2:26:47 PM PDT by dennisw (We have an idiocracy not a democracy)
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To: dennisw
They would have been put through military courts and tribunals years ago. You get one guess who has been holding this all up

Actually, the folks who have been holding this up is the Bush Administration who have been dragging out getting on with getting on for as long as they can. I just quoted the part where the principle foul up was the Secretary of the Navy who issued procedural orders that guaranteed that the hearings fell far short of the neutral adversarial hearings that were required under Rasul. Blame that on another good ol boy Bush appointee. Think there are none. Gates just cleaned out a couple of them. Sounds like he has more work to do.

48 posted on 06/15/2008 2:35:46 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: dennisw; smoketree; Libertarianize the GOP
I suspect that none of you actually read the SC decision since you don't actually seem to know what it requires or what the basis for the decision is.

None of you can answer how you know that the detainees are being held lawfully (either as POWs or enemy combatants) and none of you can answer why you are so afraid of an habeas corpus hearing or why you think the things that the SC sets forth as minimum protections are wrongeheaded or inadequate from either the governments side or the individuals side.

I think the problem is that you just want to scream your heads off about liberals, forgetting that Republicans are merely politicians in power and not necessarily the best protectors of our constitution either.

51 posted on 06/15/2008 2:39:42 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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