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Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?
Blogtownhall ^ | 6/20/08 | Polark

Posted on 06/17/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by freespirited

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To: Just A Nobody

You are talking about a different person than I was talking about. As far as I know, Obama’s father who I was talking about and who was listed as African on the possibly faux birth certificate is 100% black African, but maybe he is not. Regardless, the oddity of listing a race for his mother but not for his father makes one wonder about the authenticity of that birth certificate.


161 posted on 06/17/2008 9:58:25 PM PDT by JLS
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To: DanielLongo
I still cannot deduce if the person who posted it has any connection with Obama in the first place, which makes the whole thing a non-issue.

The fraudulent certificate isn't just on something on Kos, Obama's campaign is using it directly.

I've posted above a screenshot of the certificate on Fight the Smears, this screenshot shows that Fight the Smears is part and parcel of the Obama campaign. Obama cannot run from the fraud.

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162 posted on 06/17/2008 10:00:17 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: JLS

Look at Obama’s dad and his nose - long, sharp, thin. That’s bedouin blood. Aristocratic bedouin have beak thin noses.


163 posted on 06/17/2008 10:02:48 PM PDT by txhurl (Obama is 50% Caucasian, ***43.75% Arab***, and only 6.25% Negro-African.)
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To: pissant

Then I believe he is wrong. The odd effects around the letters appear to be characteristic of jpgs and pdfs of scanned printed documents, rather than documents created in soft copy by a graphics program.

If I had the ability to create screenshots I’d post samples, but if you take a graphics program, fill in a textured background, then type on it, zooming in gives jaggy letters with background colors infiltrating the letter.

Zooming in on a scanned document gives the fuzzy letter edges seen in the blow ups of the web version of the certificate.

Try it yourself. I zoomed in on a scanned jpg version of a university transcript, and observed the same halo of greyish and whitish pixels surrounded the letters once one zoomed in enough, distorting the textured background just as in the Obama certificate. They were also in evidence upon zooming on in a scanned pdf version of a medical form with a plain white background. On the other hand, I couldn’t get anything like them to appear by typing on a texture background in a graphics program, then zooming in. Instead, the letters were infiltrated by the background colors, an effect not seen in the details of the Obama certificate.

Perhaps our FReeper with a Hawaiian grandson can check the border to see whether the pattern on the corner of a genuine certificate has the patched together look that the Obama certificate exhibits.


164 posted on 06/17/2008 10:06:55 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Lancey Howard

The Obama Certification that I downloaded days ago does have one fold across the top area through the state seal. I do not know why today’s versions would not have it.

****

I have been searching Hawaii document numbers (google).

OHSM-1 application for marriage license
OHSM-5 the form you take to your wedding for the minister and witnesses to sign
OHSM-135 is a request for a birth certificate
OHSM-136 is a request for a death certificate
OHSM-137 is a request for a marriage certificate
OHSM-138 is a request for a divorce certificate

Some of these are pdf’s, so I won’t post links.

Question: What is the likelihood that the Marriage License Application is OHSM-1, and the Certification of Marriage is OHSM 1.1, that a Certification of Live Birth would also be an OHSM 1.1 ???

List of Hawaii state documents (nothing there other than the marriage license application that I can find).
http://www4.hawaii.gov/StateForms/ShowForm.cfm?StartRow=121


165 posted on 06/17/2008 10:13:16 PM PDT by xiangchi
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To: txflake

No, pull both up on your computer and save each into paint or whatever photo program you have. Zoom down to the lower corners where the verticla nd horizontal borders intersect. Look very closely at the little vertical lines at the bottom of the side ‘rectangle’ of the borders. They are aligned differently on each.


166 posted on 06/17/2008 10:17:55 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: usmcobra

It doesn’t.

I downloaded both the Obama certificate and your photoshop. The distortion around the letters in yours is very different from that in the Obama certificate.

The distortion in your photoshop is much closer to the samples I created on my own machine using Appleworks Paint and typing on a textured background. The distorion in the Obama certificate is much closer to that in the scanned jpg of a university transcript I zoomed in on.


167 posted on 06/17/2008 10:18:02 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Lancey Howard

Except it was prominnetly flagged on his own anti-smear site. This is trouuuuuble.


168 posted on 06/17/2008 10:19:28 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: The_Reader_David

Well, considering the lower border intersections are not aligned on this doc, but they are on the version from Fightthesmears (Obama’s site), I’m pretty confident this is a fraud.


169 posted on 06/17/2008 10:23:29 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: usmcobra
Here is something I did for a Motorcycle site.

Believe it or not it is all in english but I flipped it and reversed it to make it appear to be in Korean or Chinese.


170 posted on 06/17/2008 10:26:03 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: xiangchi; pissant; the anti-liberal; Lancey Howard; Jim Robinson
Thank You for that link, it took me to this page.

That had an interesting subject on it

Who is eligible to apply and how to apply for an amendment?

Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country.

Late registration, registration one year or more after the date of the event’s occurrence, of certificates are permitted subject to evidentiary requirements.

Does this mean that the state of Hawaii will issue an amended Certification of live Birth to someone born outside the United States and that such a document could be amended to say that they were born there?

171 posted on 06/17/2008 10:29:49 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: usmcobra

bump


172 posted on 06/17/2008 10:31:49 PM PDT by txhurl (Obama is 50% Caucasian, ***43.75% Arab***, and only 6.25% Negro-African.)
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To: usmcobra
Vital records (birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates) on file with the Department of Health may be amended (i.e., changes, corrections, additions, deletions, or substitutions) upon submission of the required documentation.

oops I forgot to include this...

173 posted on 06/17/2008 10:34:55 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: freespirited

No signature?

I don’t buy it. A BC is a legal document that attests to something. Somebody attests to it by signing it with witnesses present.

My BC from New York in ‘54 has tons more info on it than this, including the Doc’s John Hancock.


174 posted on 06/17/2008 10:35:27 PM PDT by djf (I don't believe in perpetual motion. Perpetual mutton, that's another thing entirely!)
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To: freespirited

I am really impressed by the person who did the work on this — pointing out that it was a more recent graphics image rather than a typewritten image.

Leaves more than a molecule of suspicion in my mind.


175 posted on 06/17/2008 10:44:47 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

But you can tell that mine came from micro-fische.

White print on black paper.

Very, very differetn than this.


176 posted on 06/17/2008 10:47:50 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: JLS
You are talking about a different person than I was talking about.
Yes and No.

Obama’s father who I was talking about and who was listed as African...is 100% black African

I started out talking about him when I responded to this part of your post...
his fathers race was listed as AFRICAN?
Is African something a modern person chose rather than the currently unPC negro?

...and I said; No, because he is not Negro-African.
Here is the part I left out -- he (Obama, Sr) is not 100% black African.
He may be black and he may be from Africa, but he was classified as Arab African by the Kenyan government.

This is where I switched to Obama, Jr - confusing the issue - saying he is; 50% Caucasian, 43.75% Arab, and only 6.25% Negro-African."
So...his father was ethnically Arabic, with only 1 relative ethnically African Negro -- a maternal great-great-grandparent, thus the 6.25% Negro-African designation.

Excerpt from this site!

The question no one wants to answer - particularly Mr. Obama and his supporters, is, "Why do you think he has an Arabic name? Why does his father have an Arabic name? Why does every ancestor on his father's side have an Arabic name?"

The answer is obvious: They have Arabic names because his father's side of the family tree is Arabic.

Need proof? Research the Kenyan records for yourself. You will find that his father was officially classified as "Arab African" by the Kenyan government.

But in America's current political climate, that truth is heresy; that truth is "an inconvenient truth." It is the political equivalent in our time to what Galileo's scientific pronouncements were in his time: it is true, but nobody wants to know the truth because the lie is so much more comforting.

My apologies for the confusion, it was not intentional. It is time for me to get some sleep.

177 posted on 06/17/2008 11:13:37 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: freespirited

Interesting.


178 posted on 06/17/2008 11:25:10 PM PDT by FreedomCalls ("Frank Shoemaker would call this noise")
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To: kingattax

birth cert. ping


179 posted on 06/18/2008 1:16:39 AM PDT by taraytarah
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To: freespirited; All
I called HI records and conformed that these HI documents have the Signature Stamp AND an embossed/raised Seal ON THE BACK. The embossed seal is deep enough to be easily seen from the front.
180 posted on 06/18/2008 2:02:24 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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