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Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?
Blogtownhall ^ | 6/20/08 | Polark

Posted on 06/17/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by freespirited

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To: Cicero

Not so. The footprints that get pressed into the birth certificates in the hospital are for identification purposes.

Wherever Obama was born, if in the US anyway, the hospital has a copy of his birth certificate stating the attending physician and address of the mother/parents.


41 posted on 06/17/2008 6:36:51 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: The_Reader_David

You have to read what he said. he is not saying that it is supposed to be a copy of the original BC. He is saying this document is NOT a genuine, official print out of a computer generated Certificate of Birth. It is one created by a graphics system incompatible with an official computer generated document.


42 posted on 06/17/2008 6:36:59 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Political Junkie Too

It’s even more interesting that he dissected this thing so completely as a fraud.


43 posted on 06/17/2008 6:39:00 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: freespirited
Barak's is compressed a lot more in the jpeg format than yours.

Barak:
1024x1000=1,024,000
compressed size: 113118
ratio: 9.05

yours:
1021x851=868,871 pixels
compressed size: 296015
ratio: 2.94

Also, your image has large white areas which are almost infinitely compressable, so the compression ratio of the "interesting" sections is probably closer to 2.7.

Additionally, yours is a black&white image, so no color information has to be saved. Barak's is full color, so three times the data has to be saved.

Go back and compres yours to about 90,000 bytes and then compare the images. That still won't handle the color difference, but it will start showing what you lose in compression.

44 posted on 06/17/2008 6:39:06 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: freespirited
Totally Authentic!

45 posted on 06/17/2008 6:39:06 PM PDT by library user
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To: freespirited

Another HUGE blunder. In 1961 “African” was not a “race”. His father would have been listed as “black”, possibly “Negro” and maybe even “colored”. The person who reproduces them at request DOES NOT change any data for political correctness as that would be falsifying official government documents.


46 posted on 06/17/2008 6:39:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: freespirited

Our grandson was born in HI. The background paper is the same except sharper and clearer on my grandson’s. The border is much darker on my grandson’s birth certificate. The seal looks somewhat smaller on my grandsons but both are black instead of in color. No we are not going to publish his birth certificate.


47 posted on 06/17/2008 6:39:38 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

That is a great site.


48 posted on 06/17/2008 6:39:55 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: freespirited

>>>As for the first part, the acronym, “OHSM,” stands for “Office of Health Statistics Management,” which is not the responsible office within the Department of Health for issuing a certificate of birth.

ooops

https://www.ehawaii.gov/doh/vitrec/exe/vitrec.cgi


49 posted on 06/17/2008 6:40:05 PM PDT by angkor (The Elephant In The Conservative/GOP Living Room isn't RINOs, it's The Religionists.)
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To: freespirited

See BS documents part deaux??


50 posted on 06/17/2008 6:41:49 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: freespirited

What are the letters in the middle of the document? Very faint and appear backwards.


51 posted on 06/17/2008 6:42:04 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Pharmboy

They do respond with a computer generated document. He is saying that this is a fake computer generated document


52 posted on 06/17/2008 6:42:29 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Political Junkie Too

[... It’s interesting that the person who wrote this
analysis ignored the reverse datestamp on the document...]

I didn’t think much about it because I thought it was
a water mark.


53 posted on 06/17/2008 6:43:07 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Pharmboy

My sister law was born at St Francis Hospital in Honolulu around the same time . Her birth certificate is hand written with ink . Her assessment is this is strange since most were had written back then on the islands except the base babies.


54 posted on 06/17/2008 6:44:09 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: RedVirginia

“Check out ExposeObama.com and look at the ads the “Willie Horton” people are planning to drop on the airwaves after Labor Day.”

Some day we’ll get an American running for the President again.


55 posted on 06/17/2008 6:45:40 PM PDT by CalifChris
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To: Cicero

This document seems to be a correct document, just not what is claimed. See: http://suitablyflip.com/suitably_flip/2008/06/kos-tries-to-pa.html

But there’s a bigger problem here than the document’s chain of custody. It involves the difference between a “Certificate of Live Birth” and a “Certification of Live Birth”. This is the latter, despite Kos’ identification of it as the former.

Per the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands (a state agency that happens to detail the difference):

In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.

Indeed, the Kos document offers scant details, limited to name, gender, date, location, and names and races of parents.


56 posted on 06/17/2008 6:45:56 PM PDT by NathanR (Obama: More 'African' than 'American'.)
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To: freespirited

Without signatures, stamp and date issued it looks to be something whipped up for public consumption. A fake.


57 posted on 06/17/2008 6:47:18 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
What are the letters in the middle of the document? Very faint and appear backwards.

JUN 6 2007. It looks like bleed through from a date stamped on the back.

58 posted on 06/17/2008 6:48:50 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: pissant

Thank you OP!

I saw all of this, too, when I downloaded this form and looked at the backgrounds.

Look at the two I’s in Hawaii. Really sloppy.

I do not know if this helps, but I found a marriage certificate of the same Hawaii issue type on another bbs. I downloaded it, but it is too blurry to read. Maybe OP can see what is on it in terms of official seals, form numbers and so on.

http://www.foreigndocuments.com/images/docs/marriage_usa_hawaii_small.jpg


59 posted on 06/17/2008 6:51:16 PM PDT by xiangchi
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To: ncalburt

We are looking for your sister-in-law’s birth certificate type. Is it hospital-issued? With baby footprints? Does a doctor sign off on her birth time and health status?


60 posted on 06/17/2008 6:53:59 PM PDT by txhurl
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