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White Working-Class Boys Becoming An Underclass (UK)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-18-2008 | Graeme Paton

Posted on 06/18/2008 10:14:43 AM PDT by blam

White working-class boys becoming an underclass

By Graeme Paton, Education Editor
Last Updated: 4:11PM BST 18/06/2008

White teenagers are less likely to go to university than school-leavers from other ethnic groups - even with the same A-level results, according to official figures.

The gap is widest among male teenagers from poor backgrounds, raising fresh fears that working class boys are becoming the education "underclass" in England.

According to a Government report, just over one-in-20 white boys from poor homes goes on to university.

This compares to 66 per cent of Indian girls and 65 per cent of young women from Chinese families.

An analysis published by the Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills said the rise in the number of women going to university over the last 10 or 20 years "had made the performance of males look relatively dismal".

The report said many working class white boys dropped out of education at the earliest opportunity, aged 16.

Bill Rammell, the higher education minister, said schools needed to intervene at an earlier age to get white boys interested in college and university.

"I think that culture plays a very important role," he said. "Part of what we have to do is to look across society and look among the ethnic minority groups where there is a very strong attachment to education and try to learn from that."

An analysis carried out by the DIUS looked at the number of teenagers going on to university, broken down by gender, ethnicity, social class and achievement at school.

It found that women were in the minority at university up to 1992, but over the last 15 years the balance had shifted.

Last year the proportion of young men studying for a degree fell to 35 per cent, compared to 47 per cent of women.

Despite fears that women are much more likely to go to university, the report said ethnicity and social class had a "larger" bearing on staying on rates.

The gaps "did not disappear entirely" even when comparing students with the same A-level results, researchers said.

"In fact, in the case of ethnicity, it was overwhelmingly clear the young people from non-white backgrounds were much more likely to participate in higher education than their white peers with similar prior attainment," said the study.

Just six per cent of white boys eligible for free school meals went to university compared to 26 per cent of working class young men from ethnic minority backgrounds. Some 34 per cent of girls from deprived ethnic minority families went to university, according to researchers.

Young white men from poor homes were eight and a half times less likely to go to university than ethnic minority women from middle-class families.

Among some ethnic groups, university participation rates were even higher.

Overall, 58 per cent of men from Indian backgrounds and 66 per cent of women go on to university. Among Chinese families, 60 per cent of boys and 65 per cent of women go to university.

Black Caribbean boys were the only group less likely to go to university than white boys.

The Conservatives said the disclosure proved that Labour was failing pupils from poor homes.

But the Government insisted a series of programmes had been launched to break down the barriers, including sending successful male role models into state schools.

In Leicester, undergraduates hold a football competition for schoolboys to give them a taste of student life.

It is also hoped the Government's new-style diploma qualifications - combining work-based training and classroom study - will prove more popular than traditional A-levels among many young men.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: asia; boys; china; india; pakistani; uk; white; workingclass
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After 40 years of White-male bashing...is anyone suprised?
1 posted on 06/18/2008 10:14:43 AM PDT by blam
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A glimpse of America’s near future.

Not to be racist, but can anyone tell me of a country headed by a black that is well run? I was asked that question, and couldn’t answer. Surely there is one?


2 posted on 06/18/2008 10:21:48 AM PDT by brownsfan (Algore makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.)
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To: blam

Things are working out exactly as planned


3 posted on 06/18/2008 10:22:08 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: blam

This is probably a peek at the future of the US as well.

Underachievement is an equal opportunity unemployer.


4 posted on 06/18/2008 10:22:15 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: blam

If you’ve ever read any of Theodore Dalrymple’s columns you wouldn’t be surprised. It’s the inevitable combination of three decades of welfare culture, out-of-control political correctness and the Labor Party’s control of public education.

I’m sure there is a “War Against Boys” angle there too. But liberalism in Britain has created a huge, dysfunctional, violent, drunken, unemployable “Oi!” culture in what used to be called “working-class” whites.


5 posted on 06/18/2008 10:27:02 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: blam

I agree. Why should the white kids do anything when they see everything given to the muslims?


6 posted on 06/18/2008 10:28:41 AM PDT by RC2
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To: WayneS

“Things are working out exactly as planned”

I disagree. The left is very naieve, and has trouble with thinking things through. My observation would be that the left saw white males as unshakable sources of strength. When there is no strength to be found in white males, those seeking help from white males will be confused and angry.

Much like my workplace. It’s dominated by women now. But in crunch time, when something absolutely has to be done, they look around for some man to get it done. Sorry if my observation sounds sexist.


7 posted on 06/18/2008 10:29:23 AM PDT by brownsfan (Algore makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.)
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To: blam

Why does this article go out of its way not to mention the college attendance rate for young white male from middle can upper class families?

Also, lower class white men constitute how much of the total population? Lower class white women? How about the lower class white women college attendance rate?


8 posted on 06/18/2008 10:32:14 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: blam

Wonder what the percentages are here in America...


9 posted on 06/18/2008 10:32:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: blam

Minority ethnic groups break through the class barrier – with exceptions

http://www.jrf.org.uk/pressroom/releases/141105.asp


Younger generations from many of Britain's minority ethnic groups are succeeding in breaking through the class barrier. Educational achievements have helped children of working-class parents in the Caribbean, African, Indian and Chinese communities to obtain managerial and professional jobs at a faster rate than their white counterparts, according to research for the Joseph Rowntree Foundation.

But the study, based on surveys tracing children's progress over 30 years, finds that young people from the Pakistani community are an exception. Although their parents are heavily concentrated in the working class, they show less upward mobility than children from white manual workers' families. Bangladeshis are similarly disadvantaged but unlike young Pakistanis, this can be more readily explained by education and other characteristics of their backgrounds.

Lucinda Platt, a Lecturer in the Sociology Department at the University of Essex, analysed data from the Office for National Statistics Longitudinal Study on 140,000 children who grew up between the 1960s and the 1980s. Her research showed that family background and class had an important influence on later employment: children whose parents were in the managerial or professional classes were more likely to end up in higher-status jobs, even after account was taken of differences in educational achievement. Coming from a more advantaged background also tended to reduce their chances of unemployment.

An expansion in professional and managerial occupations over the past 30 years has created more 'room at the top', giving rise to an increase in upward mobility. Even so, a comparison between children whose parents were born overseas and white children of parents born in the UK showed young people from many minority ethnic groups were making disproportionate progress.

"There is good news to the extent that a disproportionate number of the young people who are upwardly mobile are the children of parents who came to this country as migrants. But their welcome progress is no cause for complacency – especially when it appears to be so much harder for young people from Pakistani or Bangladeshi families to get ahead. We need to do much more to understand why this is happening and the extent to which factors such as racial discrimination are involved."

10 posted on 06/18/2008 10:32:46 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: blam
Most of the smarter members of the white working class (my grandparents) saw the writing on the wall a long time ago, and encouraged their kids to go to college and get the hell out of "the old neighborhood." There are millions of cases of this happening around the country.

Nevertheless, you still have populations in places like Northeast Philadelphia and upstate New York where the grandparents/parents didn't have such an attitude and instead said things like "forget college, you can always get a job at the plant/mill." Among these people, you already see the emergence of a white underclass. These are the girls you see selling themselves to buy smack under the Frankford Avenue El in northeast Philly, or the guys stealing copper fixtures in Buffalo for money.

If you have a specialized skill (even without a college degree) than you are OK. If you went through life thinking that an unskilled job would be provided for you, or, if that failed, the city would pay you $50,000 a year to operate an elevator, than you are out of luck.

11 posted on 06/18/2008 10:33:16 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: blam

What - you thought all these activists protesting discrimination all those years really wanted “equality”?


12 posted on 06/18/2008 10:39:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: brownsfan
Not to be racist, but can anyone tell me of a country headed by a black that is well run?

Belize.

13 posted on 06/18/2008 10:48:05 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: brownsfan
Turks and Caicos.

Barbados (some corruption, but admittedly better than New Jersey).

Bermuda.

14 posted on 06/18/2008 10:55:36 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Clemenza
Good analysis.

The notion of the 1950s - namely that every man born in America would be guaranteed, at minimum, a union job with benefits and pension that he could never be fired from - is still alive and well in many segments of the population.

People who fail to compete, who are apparently unaware that there even is a competition, will lose.

15 posted on 06/18/2008 10:56:45 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake; Clemenza

Thanks.


16 posted on 06/18/2008 11:10:25 AM PDT by brownsfan (Algore makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.)
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To: blam
Just six per cent of white boys eligible for free school meals went to university compared to 26 per cent of working class young men from ethnic minority backgrounds.

There's a clue. Eligibility for "free school meals" indicates parentage that didn't do well enough in school to economically prosper. The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. Perhaps this specific group isn't particularly bright. How are the white males who don't qualify for free school meals doing in comparison?

17 posted on 06/18/2008 11:10:42 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: brownsfan
like my workplace. It’s dominated by women now. But in crunch time, when something absolutely has to be done, they look around for some man to get it done

Preach it, Brother!

4 more months and I am out of here, into my own company under the management team of me, myself, and I.
When I am busting my buttocks for a client next year, 100% of the check will go into my pocket.

18 posted on 06/18/2008 11:16:26 AM PDT by L,TOWM (If the GOP is this desperate to lose, who am I to stand in their way?)
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To: Clemenza

Ding, ding, ding we have a winner. The days of blue collar unionized workers making as much as college grads is over. Of course unionized government workers are exempt.


19 posted on 06/18/2008 11:19:09 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: brownsfan

Botswana also.


20 posted on 06/18/2008 11:22:53 AM PDT by tvdog12345
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