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Grand jury may study FLDS case next week
DeseretNews ^ | 06/19/2008 | Ben Winslow

Posted on 06/19/2008 8:39:17 AM PDT by JRochelle

A grand jury is scheduled to meet in Eldorado, Texas, next week and could begin considering evidence from the raid on the Fundamentalist LDS Church's YFZ Ranch. The Eldorado Success newspaper reported Wednesday that the Schleicher County grand jury is expected to begin considering the first criminal cases that could come from the April 3 raid.

The Texas Attorney General's Office declined to comment on any proceedings.

"In Texas, grand jury proceedings are secret proceedings by law," attorney general's spokesman Jerry Strickland said in an e-mail Wednesday to the Deseret News. "We can not and will not comment on such issues."

The grand jury last met on June 2, when 18 indictments were handed down — none of them related to the YFZ Ranch. The attorney general's office has been appointed as a special prosecutor to handle any criminal cases coming out of the raid. Texas authorities seized approximately 1,000 boxes of evidence during their raid on the YFZ Ranch.

Recently, the Utah Department of Health was asked to provide birth certificates of specific people within the FLDS Church. The request was made by Gary Engels, a special investigator for the Mohave County, Ariz., Attorney's Office, which has prosecuted FLDS members in the past for underage marriages and has a case pending against sect leader Warren Jeffs.

"He had a spreadsheet of names of couples, presumably from the Texas community, I believe," said Jeff Duncan, the director of Utah's Office of Vital Records and Statistics. Duncan told the Deseret News that no children's birth certificates were requested.

"In every instance, it was a couple," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: flds; pervs; polygamy
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1 posted on 06/19/2008 8:39:19 AM PDT by JRochelle
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To: colorcountry; greyfoxx39; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; ...

Polygamists/Pervs Alert Ping!


2 posted on 06/19/2008 8:40:42 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: JRochelle

Have you seen this little tidbit?

“As the Texas investigation unfolded, Duncan said the Vital Statistics office in St. George received several requests to issue delayed birth certificates for children born more than a year ago. The requests, forwarded to Salt Lake City, were refused because information provided to document the births and the child’s parents was insufficient, he said.”

http://www.sltrib.com/Polygamy/ci_9625046

I guess the child molesters are in CYA mode now.


3 posted on 06/19/2008 8:48:06 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I've left the Grand Ol' Plantation. / GOP '08,- NO Soup for YOU!)
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To: JRochelle

Get ‘em Texas with all you got!


4 posted on 06/19/2008 8:48:21 AM PDT by nowandlater
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To: Politicalmom

Amazing. Are these people having home births?

I have no problem with home births but if a midwife was present I would think she would have info on how to get birth certificates! Thats kind of important.


5 posted on 06/19/2008 8:54:26 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: JRochelle

Are they considering charges against FLDS, the state and local government, or both?


6 posted on 06/19/2008 9:02:47 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: JRochelle

According to witnesses, women (and little GIRLS, of course) are forced to have their babies at home without any painkillers, and if they scream they get punished.


7 posted on 06/19/2008 9:08:23 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I've left the Grand Ol' Plantation. / GOP '08,- NO Soup for YOU!)
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To: Politicalmom; JRochelle
Utah birth records sought in probe of FLDS couples' ages
8 posted on 06/19/2008 9:10:43 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: Ingtar

I doubt its what you are wishing for!


9 posted on 06/19/2008 9:15:51 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: Politicalmom
Unbelievably, they are even more evil than I thought.
10 posted on 06/19/2008 9:18:04 AM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: JRochelle

I doubt you know what I wish. I want to see the guilty on both sides punished. So far, the guilty on both sides have not faced the punishments already meted out.


11 posted on 06/19/2008 9:26:05 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Politicalmom
More garbage propaganda spewed by the media. I believe this about as much as I believed there was a "sex bed" in the back of the church. About as much I as believed the "sex slaves" story that the Leprechaun at FOX News reported. You people are so gullible.

The only ones that should be in front of a grand jury are the Nazis at Texas CPS. I'd put them all in orange jumpsuits for what they did and then send them to re-education camps.

12 posted on 06/19/2008 9:56:59 AM PDT by MrCFdovnh
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To: MrCFdovnh

Little girls being forced to “marry” drooling old men IS “sex slavery”.

I bet you’re one of those “men” who populate FR who think women have no right to their OWN husband, and don’t have a right not to be beaten and abused, and think women shouldn’t be voting.


13 posted on 06/19/2008 10:05:55 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I've left the Grand Ol' Plantation. / GOP '08,- NO Soup for YOU!)
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To: Politicalmom

Wait...women can vote?

Who authorized that?


14 posted on 06/19/2008 10:11:21 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: JRochelle

Could, might, should? Wishful thinking. I remember the utter giddyness when the last grand jury handed out 11 indictments, far higher than the usual. Of course, amidst the media and cabal hysteria nobody checked or verified if those 11 indictments were in fact flds related. Once it was discovered that NONE were flds related, I laughed at the twisting and the disappointment of those living their lives hoping that little girls were raped so they can be vindicated in their love of all things government and all thing anti-Mormon.


15 posted on 06/19/2008 12:05:22 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: Politicalmom

It occurs to me that by delaying the birth certificate for a year or more would allow the FLDS to pass the child born to a minor as being born to an older sister wife.

Perhaps the state should require DNA matching of the child and alleged bio parents before issuing a delayed certificate.


16 posted on 06/19/2008 12:20:13 PM PDT by Valpal1 (OW! My head just exploded!)
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To: commonguymd

“I remember the utter giddyness when the last grand jury handed out 11 indictments, “

IIRC, it was 18 indictments.


17 posted on 06/19/2008 12:20:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: Ingtar

“So far, the guilty on both sides have not faced the punishments already meted out.”

So far, no perpetrator has faced a trial, little lone found guilty.

We will have to wait and see what comes out of this Grand Jury hearing.


18 posted on 06/19/2008 12:22:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: UCANSEE2

Maybe the average was 11 and the huge number of 18 sent some here into hypocritical glee.


19 posted on 06/19/2008 12:22:40 PM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: UCANSEE2

But the punishment has all been placed upon the mothers and the children.


20 posted on 06/19/2008 12:25:38 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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