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Was the Holocaust Inevitable? ( Patrick J. Buchanan )
townhall.com ^ | June 20, 2008 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 06/20/2008 8:12:50 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: Eva

European Jewish surnames did not come into popular use until Napoleon required all families to choose surnames. Before that, Jewish names were in the form [Name] son/daughter of [Father’s name] of [City]


161 posted on 06/20/2008 10:13:58 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: dirtboy

Are those assertions false?


162 posted on 06/20/2008 10:14:26 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can start differentiating, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians)
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To: null and void; wideawake; Carry_Okie

Since two posters have reached them independently, I think they are accurate - I was citing wideawake’s post to show that Carrie_Okie is hardly carrying out a worthwhile intellectual exercise here.


163 posted on 06/20/2008 10:16:16 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kinghorse
Wasn’t Lindberg pretty much ruined because he ran counter to the liberal thesis on Europe?

He was ruined because he hung out in Nazi Germany, supported eugenics and pled the case of a government that later declared war on the USA.

He was set to become President and then someone nabbed his kid.

Lindbergh was not involved in politics at all at the time his son was kidnapped. He was also 30 years old when his son was kidnapped and therefore ineligible for the Presidency, anyway.

He never ran for president or any other office, was never considered for nomination by any party, and his public involvement with politics began with his famous Reader's Digest article in 1939 - seven years after the kidnapping.

Politics is some ugly stuff at critical junctures in history.

What's ugly is all the fake history being manufactured by certain individuals on this thread.

164 posted on 06/20/2008 10:18:24 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: nkycincinnatikid
I guess its too much to hope for scholarly discourse on a Buchanan thread.

I dunno what to think of Buchanan's work here, guess I'll have to read the book first.

165 posted on 06/20/2008 10:20:10 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
I guess its too much to hope for scholarly discourse on a Buchanan thread.

I guess it's too much to ask for Pat to renounce being an anti-Semite.

166 posted on 06/20/2008 10:21:51 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Yawn


167 posted on 06/20/2008 10:22:29 AM PDT by sobieski
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To: sobieski

Yawn to what? That Pat has removed all doubt about his anti-Semitism? Or that you don’t think that anti-Semitism is a bit deal?


168 posted on 06/20/2008 10:23:26 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Calling PJB an anti-semite is a tired canard.


169 posted on 06/20/2008 10:24:43 AM PDT by sobieski
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To: kellynla
And why did Hitler invade Russia? This writer quotes Hitler 10 times as saying that only by knocking out Russia could he convince Britain it could not win and must end the war.

That is, without question, the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Hitler spelled out his whole like that he thought the Germans needed lebensraum in the east.

It is true, Hitler didn't want war with France and GB, but only because he didn't want to fight a two front war. Maybe at the time he thought he'd be happy never fighting France and GB, but, could France and GB possibly have taken that chance?

170 posted on 06/20/2008 10:25:26 AM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: sobieski
Calling PJB an anti-semite is a tired canard.

Are you saying it's not true?

171 posted on 06/20/2008 10:25:43 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: sobieski
Calling PJB an anti-semite is a tired canard.

I used to think Pat's critics in that regard were exaggerating. But Pat has removed all doubt in my mind.

172 posted on 06/20/2008 10:26:55 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Right. Lets collect all his books & burn them.


173 posted on 06/20/2008 10:26:58 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: dirtboy

It was especially thrown as him as he defended John Demaniuk from the canard that he was ‘ivan the terrible’ Well, John Demaniuk was not Ivan the Terrible. But those who played the ‘anti-semitism’ card, of course, did not say they were wrong.

Pat is a paleo-con, and that’s about the extent of things.


174 posted on 06/20/2008 10:27:28 AM PDT by sobieski
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To: Alouette
I don't think Pat is so much an anti-semite in the classic sense, but rather an old school country clubber with little tolerance for ethno-religious lobbies and a blindly religious devotion to paleoconservative historical counterfactuals.

Lets also not forget that controversy sells books.

175 posted on 06/20/2008 10:27:30 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: sobieski

Which is where all Buchanan threads end up.


176 posted on 06/20/2008 10:28:14 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: skeeter
Right. Lets collect all his books & burn them.

You're being quite disingenious. I guess in your mind, Pat should be able to serve up a steaming load of anti-semetic nonsense and we can't criticize him for both his anti-semitism and his piss-poor scholarship.

177 posted on 06/20/2008 10:29:01 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Alouette

Clearly, he is not an anti-semite. He is not a raving supporter of Israel, I’ll give you that. But Israel is a foreign country.


178 posted on 06/20/2008 10:29:13 AM PDT by sobieski
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To: sobieski
But those who played the ‘anti-semitism’ card, of course, did not say they were wrong.

Pat recently has been proving them right.

179 posted on 06/20/2008 10:29:52 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: sobieski
Demjanjuk was exonerated by the Israeli Supreme Court. I agree that Pat was one of the few voices to condemn the witch hunt mentality at the time of Demjanjuk's arrest.

Nevertheless, Pat's decent into out and out loopiness since he ran for President has not gone unnoticed.

180 posted on 06/20/2008 10:31:00 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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