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Imagine the millions of lives that would have been saved had someone been able to put a bullet in Hiter & Stalin.
1 posted on 06/20/2008 8:12:50 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla
Britain went to war with Germany to save Poland. She did not save Poland.

Gee.
How stupid of those Brits.
Hitler just wanted a little room, after all.
So it was Britain that ignited the Holocaust.
Silly me. How could I have thought otherwise?

34 posted on 06/20/2008 8:31:14 AM PDT by XR7
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LOL!! The title alone gave me a good long belly laugh.


38 posted on 06/20/2008 8:33:03 AM PDT by Huck (The Teddy Roosevelt wannabe is better than Karl Marx wannabe.)
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Patrich Buchanan Chamberland


40 posted on 06/20/2008 8:33:53 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Vote for John McCain along with Tom DeLay, John Cornyn and the majority of conservatives.)
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Imagine the millions of lives that would have been saved had someone been able to put a bullet in Hiter & Stalin.

The Schiffs and Warburgs had put money on both sides.

41 posted on 06/20/2008 8:34:10 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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You folks might be interested in chiming in. Who knew that British foreign policy was responsible for the Holocaust? Who knew that Hitler DIDN’T really mention the final solution in 1935 as I had been taught years ago! Pat has ENLIGHTENED ME! ;-)


46 posted on 06/20/2008 8:36:13 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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I try to like Pat but he just makes it so damn hard.

He’s right about a lot of things but when he misses, he really misses.

The Holocaust is a losing issue for him. He doesn’t know near as much as he thinks he knows so he should just keep his damn mouth shut on this issue. I think this one issue has ruined him, politically.


51 posted on 06/20/2008 8:37:40 AM PDT by boycott
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Yes, Pat's new book "stinks." But then, so does Pat's whole career, now that he's gone off the deep end into the tar pits. How sad. The man had a modicum of talent, once upon a time. Now, like many politicians of whatever stripe, he has fallen in love with the sound of his own words.

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57 posted on 06/20/2008 8:40:53 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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I wonder if it is too late for Pat to file papers to run for the Presidency in Iran?

It seems he would be a shoe in.


58 posted on 06/20/2008 8:41:47 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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Heard a little bit of Pat on a Boston talk show the other day.It sounded like he was blaming Chamberlain *and* Churchill for WWII.What a putz he is!
59 posted on 06/20/2008 8:41:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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If Hitler were out to conquer the world, why did he not build a great fleet?

Apparently Buchanan has never heard of Plan Z: the Nazi plan to build a great fleet in order to neutralize the British advantage.

Hitler began constructing an aircraft carrier in 1935.

Why did he not demand the French fleet when France surrendered?

Part of Hitler's propaganda was that France would remain an independent republic following the surrender and retain possession of all its military resources - this was to give the Vichy regime the appearance of governing a France that was a willing ally of Nazi Germany.

Regardless of what the formal terms of the treaty dictated, the Vichy regime was a Nazi puppet state and its army and navy were Nazi property as a practical matter.

It didn't much matter, since the UK Royal Navy destroyed France's North Atlantic vessels or incorporated them into the Free French Navy, and the Vichy Navy was bottled up in the Mediterranean at Toulon or at Dakar in Senegal by the Royal Navy as well.

And, in 1940, the Marine Nationale was no larger than the Italian Navy anyway.

In order to swallow Buchanan's analysis, you need to believe that Vichy France was a free and independent state that was an equal partner in a voluntary alliance with Nazi Germany.

62 posted on 06/20/2008 8:43:30 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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Britain losing her empire was inevitable, I think most people realize that. Considering that the same thing happened to every European power, placing blame on Churchill is disingenious.


64 posted on 06/20/2008 8:44:16 AM PDT by eclecticEel (men who believe deeply in something, even wrong, usually triumph over men who believe in nothing)
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Nothing more than a sad bid for attention. Mr. Buchanan has reached the point where the only way anyone will print his name is for him to trot out his odd notions about history and foreign policy. And so he keeps doing it.


66 posted on 06/20/2008 8:45:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (When they are all socialists, the term 'RINO' ceases to have any meaning. They are just Republicans.)
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This man has become such a jackass it's impossible to imagine how anyone can take him seriously, anymore.

It's too bad. At one time he was a clear thinker.

67 posted on 06/20/2008 8:46:11 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Islam: Imagine a clown car.........with guns.)
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The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.

Huh? So, no Inquisition, no Torquemada?


68 posted on 06/20/2008 8:47:17 AM PDT by Ben Reyes
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God damn Pat Buchanan!

/Rev Wright rant

80 posted on 06/20/2008 8:53:44 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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Sounds like PJB is blaming Churchill for the Holocaust. He is deranged.


83 posted on 06/20/2008 8:56:20 AM PDT by DFG
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The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.

That's true, the treatment of Jews wasn't a cause of the war, though in retrospect most American's consider the nature of the Nazi as clear evidence of the evil we were confronting. Discarding it's relevance one must accept several things. That the pre-war treatment of Jews under the Nuremburg laws was just fine. For Jews, no citizenship, removal from jobs, pensions, loss of property. Not much to criticize there Pat, and certainly no hint as to what was to come. The slaughter of political dissidents, that's fine. So much for criticism of Stalin on that score. Can't criticize the gulags if you accept the Nazi camp system. Homosexuals, the retarded, heck, they should die.

Of course underlying Pat's worldview is the fact that Europe, East and West, under the Reich for a millenia would be preferable to a free Western Europe, the East under the Communist heel for 4 decades.

86 posted on 06/20/2008 9:00:20 AM PDT by SJackson (There are 2 races of people in this world, the decent and the indecent,Victor Frankl, George Foreman)
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I someone had shot the Kaiser before WWI, Hitler and Stalin may have been irrelevant.


89 posted on 06/20/2008 9:01:50 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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I’ve read Mein Kampf.

He didn’t want to rule the world, he just wanted to rule Europe, and wanted to arrange for Japan to rule Asia and the USA to rule the western hemisphere. England, being isolated by water (he was a hydrophobe), was to be left alone as a self-governing fluke.

He laid out his plans. Yes, the Holocaust was intended. No, he did not want to take over the world, just the whole of Europe.


93 posted on 06/20/2008 9:03:43 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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Was the Holocaust Inevitable?

Patrick J. Buchanan is a man who—if he ever had it—has lost his ability to recognize evil and now finds himself, in Milton's words, "in wand'ring mazes lost".

106 posted on 06/20/2008 9:12:06 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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