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To: wardaddy

When did their troops cross the Polish, or even German, border to help? Or was it a useless declaration: Don’t do that Hitler or I’ll stomp my foot.


320 posted on 06/21/2008 8:22:47 AM PDT by sobieski
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To: sobieski; wardaddy
Good morning sobieski.

I take the liberty of trying to put things in their fairly true perspective. I was in a workshop as a helper and another helper was a Polish emmigrant called Gruza. I said in a friendly manner , to curry favour with him- "We British helped you in the war". He laughed and shouted something to the effect that "they never came, where where they?"

Now for the facts. Hitler had annexed territories four times. He had given his word that "the last territorial claim I shall make etc." Chamberlain was a gentleman. He thought that any leader of a nation would thus have principles. Hitler was a liar, of course.

What must be stated is the ultimatum given to Hitler by Chamberlain. He had his arm twisted by the now powerful figure of Churchill, with his pals, Cadogan and Vansittart et al.

Had Hitler had obeyed the ultimatum, we would not be discussing this war presumably. Since Hitler, like most bullies, had grown bolder and contemptuous, he did not even consider negotiations. Logistically, it was impossible for Britain to do anything. They had neutral countries in between them and Poland.

Where was from in England, the Polish airmen flew sorties out of Northolt. There is an impressive war memorial to them. A Polish manned bomber crashed next to my school, but it was on a Sunday. One little chap found a cap badge- all that was left. Cordially. PL.

321 posted on 06/21/2008 8:48:00 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: sobieski; Peter Libra; Travis McGee
I don't mean this ugly but your grasp of the chronology and history of WWII is limited, are you young?.

real quick:

Nazis invade Poland 1939.

Two days later France and England and others declare war on Germany for that very reason and the greater war begins.....England after all had a fresh protection treaty with Poland.

Meanwhile Soviets sensing an opportunity and a necessity enter Poland and subsequently split it with Germany for the time being....a very short time being.

The Pre-US Allies are busy with Germany in the west. Britain was hardly in a position to invade Poland from the Polish Corridor on the Baltic to attack the German occupiers. The logistics would have been Godawful, the overall strategy unwise and the north coast corridor of Poland was ethnic German bordered by Germany on one side and Prussia on the other....how would you have had England invade Poland to throw out the Nazis? It was impossible.

The war progresses through it's various twists and turns and the US enters and Polish government in exile set up in England and Polish troops fight in Normandy invasion and elsewhere admirably.....and in the air.

As the war draws to a close the Soviets are entrenched in Poland, and Poland ostensibly gets some big chunks of former Germany albeit under now the Communist yoke.

The only thing different folks coulda done is to have attacked Stalin after the war with nukes and freed Poland and others in the east bloc.....woulda suited me. Coulda spared us the Cold War but I was born 12 years after WWII ended. they were a number of nations freed from the Axis occupation where it was impossible to attack the Axis on that particular soil for the Allies....and Poland was one of them but when Hitler invaded Poland in 1939, he doomed his dreams right there, he brought the West into his war.

322 posted on 06/21/2008 10:09:55 AM PDT by wardaddy (if I could slap Obama will he fight back like a black man or bitch up like a metero white boy?)
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