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Here's the link to the MSNBC video.

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Research, people, research. Does this sound as bad to others as it does to me? Does it pretty much put an end to the Michelle comments controversy?

1 posted on 06/20/2008 9:58:18 AM PDT by mngran2
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And Mrs. Obama wasn’t really proud of America until just a little while ago...


2 posted on 06/20/2008 9:59:45 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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A much better statement would have been:

“I really didn’t realize how much I loved America until I was deprived of her company.”


3 posted on 06/20/2008 10:02:17 AM PDT by vietvet67
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Dumb.

He's saying that being without America as a POW was what made him realize just how much he loved her.

Moron.

4 posted on 06/20/2008 10:02:33 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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Research, people, research. Does this sound as bad to others as it does to me? Does it pretty much put an end to the Michelle comments controversy?

No, and I'll tell you why.

McCain didn't understand how great America was until he experienced what other countries are like. America didn't have to change to earn his love: HE changed.

Michelle wasn't proud of America until America did what she wanted. She DIDN'T change.

Now do you see the difference?

5 posted on 06/20/2008 10:02:56 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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Hey, did you happen to notice the SOURCE of this left-wing PROPOGANDA? I wouldn't lose any sleep over this now.
6 posted on 06/20/2008 10:03:07 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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7 posted on 06/20/2008 10:03:10 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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I think that he was saying that his love for the nation was shallow before his experience. He said that he didn't really love the country before then. "Really" in this context used to emphasize a deepening of his affection for the nation.
8 posted on 06/20/2008 10:03:34 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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no comparison...McCain was hot-shot young man in Navy when his plane went down.....a “jerk” by his own description in his book....Michelle Obama is a 45 year old successful lawyer.

At 25 I didn’t know enough to “love my country”.,,,and I voted for “change” with Ross Perot. What an idiot I was then....


12 posted on 06/20/2008 10:06:02 AM PDT by HappyinAZ
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Research, people, research. Does this sound as bad to others as it does to me? Does it pretty much put an end to the Michelle comments controversy?

It only sounds bad if you aren't thinking. He didn't say he doesn't love America now. He said he didn't really love America until he was deprived of the freedom the country gives to him. He learned to really appreciate the country when he saw what liberty was all about. He was a young man, most young men don't think about loving the country, they take it for granted. I am not a McCain lover, actually I kind of dislike many things about the guy, but this statement is not bad, actually it is quite good. Don't like it? Try putting your brain in gear, or maybe get a transplant, you sound as if you need one.

13 posted on 06/20/2008 10:06:11 AM PDT by calex59
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I suspect that he meant something more like "love America as deeply as I do now"

And,

I'm certain that Michelle Obama is an America-hater just like her husband and his good friends the Ayers and Dohrns and Wrights, and Phlegers, etc.

But, FOR PITY SAKES!

John Sidney McCain...

Words have meaning. Don't give the enemy ammo, when you are surely better than your words implied, and you just plain know better!

Sheesh!

16 posted on 06/20/2008 10:07:31 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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It took imprisonment and torture for McCain to really love his country. It took the possibility of power for M. Obama to really be proud of it.
17 posted on 06/20/2008 10:08:15 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Yep, I saw the tape.


19 posted on 06/20/2008 10:08:20 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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Does this sound as bad to others as it does to me?

No. Context. If he had only said "I really didn't love America" then that might have been something. However when you take it into context you realize that he was talking about prior to being a POW.

He was pretty much a kid, and probably loved America like a home, but not REALLY love America through appreciation that can only be gained with knowledge and wisdom. Then America was taken from him and he realized what it actually meant to him.

We joke often here that if people don't love the United States then they should move somewhere else and see how much they miss it.

Well John McCain did just that by getting interned at the Hanoi Hilton.

Compare his vietnam experience to that of John Kerry and tell me who is the better man of the two. John McCain hands down, without a doubt, even with an out of context quote trying to make him sound un-American.

20 posted on 06/20/2008 10:08:29 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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I don’t see the big deal. A lot of Americans, when they go abroad for the first time to a turd world country for any reason, develop a newfound appreciation for this country.


22 posted on 06/20/2008 10:09:40 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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How many young people actually appreciate the country the way they should? How old was McCain when he entered the military and how old is our potential First Lady? How many Marxist indoctrinated people really dislike this country far into adulthood?

No comparison, end of story.

23 posted on 06/20/2008 10:10:38 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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I really didn't love America until I was deprived of her company

I see nothing even slightly questionable about his statement. This is an absurd thread.

24 posted on 06/20/2008 10:10:38 AM PDT by JimSEA (Kaffur and proud of it.)
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No comparison and it certainly doesn’t put an end to criticism of Michelle’s comments.


25 posted on 06/20/2008 10:11:34 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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Anyone who can not understand what McCain is saying in the context of his experience is either a wierdo, an idiot, or a pinko Obama apologist pretending for political purposes to have found the holy grail. As to whether this Oscar-nominated effort by MSNBC will have any effect on the heat that Michelle Obama has been getting is hard to say. If she screws up again, she’ll get heat. If she doesn’t, other campaign news will dominate the media— maybe even some real news. MSNBC is a media cesspool. Nobody watches it unless they are already of a certain persuasion, or are interested for intellegence purposes in what the “G— D-—America” crowd is saying.


26 posted on 06/20/2008 10:12:03 AM PDT by mathurine
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I think what he is trying to say is that you don’t truely appreciate something until you lose it or are separated from it. And it’s true. The overwhelming majority of the people in this country take our freedoms and our liberties for granted. They’ve always enjoyed them and never had to fight for them. As Thomas Paine wrote, “That which we obtain too easily, we esteem too lightly.” But take it away and it’s another story.


28 posted on 06/20/2008 10:13:00 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Are you daft? Or did you forget the sarcasm warning.
31 posted on 06/20/2008 10:15:18 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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