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To: PastorTony

“Fundamentally there is no difference between McCain and Obama - they both believe it is the role of government to solve the world’s problems.”

To say there is no difference between Obama and McCain suggests that you have not done your research. I see you just signed up over here and if you are trying to spread disaffection for McCain, I don’t think it will work here.

Differences? Let’s see.

Taxes: McCain wants to make the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts permanent. Obama want to let them expire, a massive tax increase. How exactly is McCain’s position on taxes fundamentally as statist as Obama’s statist as Obama’s.

Spending: McCain has consistently opposed earmarks, which grow government at the expense of the taxpayer. Obama favors them. McCain has opposed big ticket government spending such as the $1.2 trillion prescription drug benefit, the $386 billion highway bill and the gigantic Agriculture Bill just passed by Congress. Obama has proposed even more spending than this. How is McCain’s position equally as statist as Obama’s?

Second Amendment- McCain has a nearly perfect rating form the NRA in protecting the Second Amendment. Obama is a gun grabber extraordinaire who tired to pass a bill in the Illinois Senate that would subject the VICTIMS of burglary to prosecution if they have a gun stolen in the burglary and it is used to commit a crime UNLESS the Victim of the Burglary can prove that he took “reasonable steps”: to secure it. How exactly is McCain’s position on the Second Amendment fundamentally as statist as Obama’s?

I haven’t even mentioned the radically different approaches of Obama and McCain on medical care, in which Obama would have the government gobble up an industry that is one seventh of the entire U.S. Economy. McCain firmly opposes government run health care.

You will find most people on this site to be too well informed to buy outlandish statements such as that McCain and Obama are both fundamentally the same as far as statism is concerned.


50 posted on 06/21/2008 8:55:19 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads
You will find most people on this site to be too well informed to buy outlandish statements such as that McCain and Obama are both fundamentally the same as far as statism is concerned.

Which do you think is more dangerous to the flock: The wolf in wolve's clothing, or a wolf in sheep's clothing?

59 posted on 06/21/2008 9:12:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Obama stole McCain's motto.."Vero Possumus".."Yes, we'll roll over and play dead")
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To: Brices Crossroads

Taxes: McCain and Obama both support the progressive income tax, they just differ on the details. Neither one of them seeks to repeal the 16th Amendement and abolish the IRS.

Spending: Both McCain and Obama are lovers of big government. They just differ on the details of how the money should be spent. Neither one of them wants the drastic cuts in federal spending and regulation that are needed to restore this republic.

2nd Amendment: Both McCain and Obama feel the government can pass laws restricting the sale, ownership and manufacture of firearms. They simply disagree on the details. Neither one of them wants a full restoration of 2nd Amendment rights and is calling to overturn existing gun regulations.

Health Care: McCain and Obama both favor the government being involved in and greatly regulating the health care industry. They only disagree on the details. Neither one of them seeks to get the government out of the medical business.

Differences? There are none. McCain offers a Republican version of statism, Obama offers a Democratic version of statism. Neither one of them supports the conservative principle of limited government.

Statism is the belief that government can solve all of society’s problems. Conservatism is the belief that government is the root of all of society’s problems. By their words and deeds both McCain and Obama are statists.


86 posted on 06/21/2008 5:12:32 PM PDT by PastorTony
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