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A McCain flip-flop on immigration?
Baltimore Sun ^ | June 20th | Rick Pearson

Posted on 06/21/2008 9:19:40 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

In the meeting, attendees said McCain promised that, if elected, Congress would pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at weblogs.baltimoresun.com ...


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; divideandconquer; hispandering; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; laraza; mccain; mexicans; mexico; rino
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!WTF! is up with this guy? Why is McCain so hard up to pass amnesty?

AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 posted on 06/21/2008 9:19:40 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Pandering...


2 posted on 06/21/2008 9:21:19 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I would like to see what each candidate has in mind for an immigration bill...............both of them.


3 posted on 06/21/2008 9:21:26 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Mc Cain I guess will never learn.. just when he gained some support over drilling for oil.. he lets this amnesty stuff out...I am writing in Hunter.. at least I know where he stood..


4 posted on 06/21/2008 9:21:50 AM PDT by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

He’s changed his stance 5 times in as many days on immigration. It’s become clear to me that he’s in 100% pander mode now that Hillary! is out of the race. He almost had me convinced over the last month or so that he’d gotten the message and was going to carry the conservative banner... I should’ve known.


5 posted on 06/21/2008 9:22:11 AM PDT by TheZMan (Bitter backwoods east Texan Christian gun clinger with the AC at 72 degrees.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; Polybius
...a conservative anti-illegal immigration activist who attended the meeting contended McCain was offering conservatives one view of immigration reform while telling Latinos another.

I thought McCain's first priority was for border security! /sarc

6 posted on 06/21/2008 9:24:21 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

WTF is up with Johnny?He’s determined to stick it to all us conservatives for not supporting his immigration crap the first time.Well,the hell with him...


7 posted on 06/21/2008 9:26:59 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: chicagolady

Ping...iffin y’all want to contribute.


8 posted on 06/21/2008 9:27:12 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

First we need a “comprehensive” POVERTY reform bill that prohibits Mexico from importing its poverty into America. I’m getting extremely tired of listening to the ‘RATS whine and cry about “poverty” and the “uninsured” EVERY election season. It’s getting old. If they want to “end poverty,” STOP FN IMPORTING IT!!!!!


9 posted on 06/21/2008 9:27:45 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

THIS WAS REPORTERD HERE ON FREEREPUBLIC YESTERDAY WITH AN EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT~!!!!!!!!!

WAY TO GO FREEPERS~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 posted on 06/21/2008 9:28:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: JoanneSD

“Mc Cain I guess will never learn.. just when he gained some support over drilling for oil.. he lets this amnesty stuff out...I am writing in Hunter.. at least I know where he stood..”

Right behind ya. Not much other choice. And at least I could sleep that night.


11 posted on 06/21/2008 9:29:18 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: rabscuttle385
I thought McCain's first priority was for border security! /sarc

No, MacCain's first duty is to get himself elected. Truth, honor, integrity, your future, my future, our children's and grandchildren's futures be damned.

With MacCain everything is, was and always will be about MacCain. Tell a lie here. Tell a lie there. Say one thing one day. Say something different the next. It really doesn't matter to him what it might cost others so long as it's good for "The John".

12 posted on 06/21/2008 9:30:51 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: JoanneSD

Well you could look at it this way....if the gas prices remain high, there won’t be any illegals left here to give amnesty to.


13 posted on 06/21/2008 9:31:21 AM PDT by Grunthor (Gonna vote for the candidate that is for drilling for oil, Juan McJerk. Maybe.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The government we deserve.
(For evolving beyond tar and feathering.)


14 posted on 06/21/2008 9:31:56 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Teach your child to be an American. Take him out of public school.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; All

It may or may not be true, but it is coming from the Baltimore Sun, so I would take it with a grain of salt.

I know there are people here on FR who want to believe the worst about John McCain, but let’s get our facts straight before passing judgment.


15 posted on 06/21/2008 9:32:24 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Grunthor; JoanneSD; AuntB
Well you could look at it this way....if the gas prices remain high, there won’t be any illegals left here to give amnesty to.

Hiring illegals to push your SUV down the road will soon be cheaper than buying gas.

16 posted on 06/21/2008 9:33:58 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: Farmer Dean

McCain is coming to Cincinnati on Thursday. If at all possible I plan to show up with a large sign. Side 1 will say :
“No Amnesty”, Side 2 “Drill Anwr”.

I feel like I’m living back in the Clinton era again, making protest signs.


17 posted on 06/21/2008 9:34:18 AM PDT by muggs (No matter who wins, America loses)
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To: Mr. K
THIS WAS REPORTERD HERE ON FREEREPUBLIC YESTERDAY WITH AN EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT~!!!!!!!!!

WAY TO GO FREEPERS~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

********

Do you have a link?

18 posted on 06/21/2008 9:35:18 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The Arse! Half are moving back home anyway. What doesn’t McLame understand about “ILLEGAL ALIENS!” Maybe McLAME should be called out to explain why 25% of Our Prison Population is Illegal Aliens!! Tell the Illegals to get Out before We Arrest Them and Outsource Them as Prisoners to Cuba for detention under contract!*

*Note: That is Fidel’s Cuba!, not Club Gitmo:-P


19 posted on 06/21/2008 9:37:36 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: muggs

If you show up with your sign,be prepared to get your ass kicked.Johnny will not allow any photos of a sign like that..


20 posted on 06/21/2008 9:38:28 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Rosanna Pulido in the article is FReeper chicagolady. She was on Lou Dobbs last night.


21 posted on 06/21/2008 9:42:08 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Farmer Dean

The Clintons’ didn’t like my signs either but the worst that happens was I got flipped off.


22 posted on 06/21/2008 9:43:24 AM PDT by muggs (No matter who wins, America loses)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Don’t get you hopes up. “Comprehensive” is code for legalization of imigrants who are already here. Nothing new here folks, move along.


23 posted on 06/21/2008 9:44:57 AM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

McCain hasn’t changed his position, for a year he’s been saying secure the border, when that’s done we have to pass comprehensive immigration reform. When he’s hispandering he doesn’t mention securing the border, when he’s talking to the rest of us he forgets to mention comprehensive immigration reform. This is nothing new, for him, he says what’s to his advantage at the moment.


24 posted on 06/21/2008 9:45:53 AM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

McCain is answering to his “masters of the universe”. The same people that made it possible to put a dipstick like him as the GOP candidate.

Global losers, people that need to be kicked to Siberia forever.


25 posted on 06/21/2008 9:47:24 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: E. Cartman
No, MacCain's first duty is to get himself elected. Truth, honor, integrity, your future, my future, our children's and grandchildren's futures be damned.

So do you think it's any different with the other 2 ?

26 posted on 06/21/2008 9:50:02 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (http://eaglecooler.wordpress.com/)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Not a flip-flop, just another lie.


27 posted on 06/21/2008 9:50:56 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: E. Cartman
Here is the link:

Freeper chicagolady eyewitness thread

28 posted on 06/21/2008 9:51:05 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

As Democrats have both houses of Congress, they will pass the immigration/amnesty bills. The question is, if elected president, will McPain veto it or sign it? We hope for the former rather than latter.


29 posted on 06/21/2008 9:55:56 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

You have to be as naive and/or ignorant as Sean Hannity to believe anything McCain says.


30 posted on 06/21/2008 9:57:24 AM PDT by jubail (Colmes is the smarter one between Hannity & Colmes)
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To: AuntB; Halfmanhalfamazing; Mr. K
Here is a transcript of chicagolady on Lou Dobbs last night.

Transcript

31 posted on 06/21/2008 9:59:01 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
To all you McPander supporters here;.......

SUCKERS!

32 posted on 06/21/2008 10:00:22 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I don’t look at his ‘flip flop’ as a ‘flip flop’.
I never believe his lies about the border illegals
or any of this campaign trail rhetoric....they’re all
lies (except for what’s said in these secret meetings.)


33 posted on 06/21/2008 10:00:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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I am beginning to wonder if the GOP thinks it, long term can “win” the latino vote over social issues/religion. I am not saying that is an accurate assumption, but I wouldn’t put it past the powers that be to think they can eventually win the majority of the latino vote and thus solidify power.

Of course, we already know the dems think that.


34 posted on 06/21/2008 10:04:24 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What would be interesting is the question of whether the Dems would go along. Obviously, it would have to start in the Congress. I think the conventional wisdom is that the Dems would jump at the chance of extending the right to vote to 12 million Mexican immigrants. But then, I am not so sure. Certainly McCain would be a lame duck on day one. He would not care whether the voters hate his guts in 2012. If the Dems went along for the ride, though, they could be looking at a midterm bloodbath.


35 posted on 06/21/2008 10:05:45 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Gaffer

But he’s not Obama.....(skip)

not Obama.....(skip) not Obama.....(skip)not Obama.....(skip)


36 posted on 06/21/2008 10:06:18 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: RC2
"I would like to see what each candidate has in mind for an immigration bill...............both of them."

This won't even come up in a debate or for discussion between the candidates because it is a non-issue since both of them agree that there will be wide open borders and an amnesty of illegals and all their relatives who want to join them, with millions of new Democrat voters.

37 posted on 06/21/2008 10:07:08 AM PDT by penowa
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

McCain has never changed his mind about amnesty. The only “change” has been one of sequencing, i.e., the border first then amnesty.


38 posted on 06/21/2008 10:08:46 AM PDT by kabar
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To: jubail
Hannity has a good shtick. Goad enough conservatives to his side by mildly rebuking leftist behavior of RINOS, but tow the party line at the end of the day, hoping to drag along all the lemmings who "identify" with him. Feign conservatism when it is harmless to do so, and then abandon all principles when it is worth a damn.

Like a lot of Republicans, he is the kind who is great for conservatives when the Democrats are in power, and lousy otherwise.

39 posted on 06/21/2008 10:09:23 AM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Oooooooooo! Obama!!!!!! Ooooooooo...booga booga!!!!! Oooooooo! Obama !!!!.

I know Obama is bad news. I also know there are 100, 1000, 1million more slick talkin', power hungry, life stealing Democrats out there ready, willing and able to replace him.

My concern is that when you smell shit in your house, you should try to find the source and get rid of it before going next door the neighbor's house, and so on.....

40 posted on 06/21/2008 10:10:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I will NOT be voting for McCain. See my Tagline.


41 posted on 06/21/2008 10:12:06 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: TheZMan
Poll: Voters Unaware of Candidates’ Immigration Positions; McCain Supporters Farthest Off the Mark
42 posted on 06/21/2008 10:12:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
I like to think of it the same way I think about my two senators, Chambliss and Isaakson....they started out agreeing to this amnesty sham and were very quickly reminded from whence their largesse comes.

However, they (and McCain) " ONLY CHANGED THEIR TUNES, NOT THEIR HEARTS".

43 posted on 06/21/2008 10:13:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Crimson Elephant
"I am beginning to wonder if the GOP thinks it, long term can 'win' the latino vote over social issues/religion."

If that were the case, why would the GOP be so anxious to toss the "religious right" voters they already have under the bus?

Latinos don't vote on social issues/religion or they wouldn't vote mostly for Democrats. Like most new immigrants, they vote for the socialist who will dole out more goodies to them than the other guy.

44 posted on 06/21/2008 10:18:51 AM PDT by penowa
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To: rabscuttle385
I thought McCain's first priority was for border security!

Border security and amnesty are not quite the same issue. McCain hasn't flip-flopped. He never said he would stop pushing for amnesty. He stated that border security was important and it is. Where is the contradiction as these two issues apply to McCain?

He didn't promise to round up one single illegal alien and deport him/her, did he?


McCain, best friend an illegal alien ever had.

45 posted on 06/21/2008 10:21:16 AM PDT by Ron H. (Repeat after me now: McCain is NOT a conservative. Again now: McCain is NOT a conservative.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

McCain sponsored the so-called Comprehensive Immigration Act with his buddy, Ted Kennedy, and he has never wavered from his wish to grant amnesty to illegals. At least he has been consistently wrong...


46 posted on 06/21/2008 10:25:56 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: darkwing104; JoanneSD; TheZMan; rabscuttle385; Halfmanhalfamazing; Farmer Dean; FlingWingFlyer; ...
I have always believed that our border must be secure and that the federal government has utterly failed in its responsibility to ensure that it is secure. If we have learned anything from the recent immigration debate, it is that Americans have little trust that their government will honor a pledge to do the things necessary to make the border secure. As president, I will secure the border. I will restore the trust Americans should have in the basic competency of their government. A secure border is an essential element of our national security. Tight border security includes not just the entry and exit of people, but also the effective screening of cargo at our ports and other points of entry. But a secure border will contribute to addressing our immigration problem most effectively if we also: ... click here
47 posted on 06/21/2008 10:26:00 AM PDT by meandog ((please pray for future President McCain, day minus 220 and counting))
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To: AuntB
Right behind ya. Not much other choice. And at least I could sleep that night.

I will be doing the same. Duncan Hunter, the right choice.

48 posted on 06/21/2008 10:26:28 AM PDT by afnamvet
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To: Ron H.

lol love the picture hahaha


49 posted on 06/21/2008 10:27:18 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; All

While I am not a McCain fan .. I did hear him say that he realizes the public wants the borders closed first.

I think our goal should be to make sure that happens .. and force Congress to put through the rest of the garbage in separate legislation .. which will have a harder time passing. We simply cannot allow the SENATE to have a 60-vote margin of democrats.

And .. as long as Bush is president .. there won’t be anything more done because the Bush-haters in Congress will do whatever it takes to keep Bush from having any success in that area.


50 posted on 06/21/2008 10:27:35 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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