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So you think you know oil: maybe not
Townhall ^ | June 24, 2008 | John David Powell

Posted on 06/24/2008 2:10:40 PM PDT by John David Powell

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To: avacado
Well, you chaps are the key to efficient exploration, not a doubt in the universe.

I just wish some of you would speak up to the likes of that jackass Rahm Emanuel, who's busily whining about oil companies not drilling some large number of leaseholds. Why not? Because there's no effing crude to be found on 90%+ of them, and the 'awl bidness' knows this is so because YOU chaps have looked. Sheesh.

;^)

21 posted on 06/24/2008 2:49:00 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Will88
And isn’t the federal gasoline tax used, or is supposed to be used, primarily for highway construction and maintenance?

Judging by the bridges falling down and the pothole epidemic nationwide, the robbing of taxes earmarked by law for highway construction and maintenance has been a fraud for at least a decade now.

Ordinary mortals are susceptible to charges of fraud and misrepresentation; politicians are not.

22 posted on 06/24/2008 2:51:22 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: John David Powell
Mr Powell asks — How much oil do we import from Persian Gulf countries?...

He answers——accounted for only 16 percent of our foreign oil imports each year from 2005 to 2007.


Not one word about OPEC!!!??? That omission reveals a dishonest reporter.

The writer is being disingenuous when discussing the Persian gulf.

It's not so much about the Persian Gulf per se but about OPEC which is controlled by the Saudis.

We are dangerously controlled by OPEC aka the Saudis.

2.1 billion barrels from OPEC (all but 3 Muslims producers and two of those are Venezuela and Ecuador) 2007
2.7 billion barrels from NON OPEC nations 2007

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_a.htm

23 posted on 06/24/2008 2:55:37 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: Publius6961

“Ordinary mortals are susceptible to charges of fraud and misrepresentation; politicians are not.”

I thought highway funds were being misused, just as SS and who knows what other earmarked funds find their way into the black hole of the federal budget.

But, as you point out, there’s no doubt those funds are sorely needed for infrastructure maintenance and replacement.


24 posted on 06/24/2008 2:57:12 PM PDT by Will88
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To: devistate one four
I saw a show the other day about the Bra industry. You guessed it...petrolium and ofcourse the almighty silk worm.

Now there is an industry we can't afford to let down with crazy oil prices....I slay myself sometimes, LOL!

25 posted on 06/24/2008 3:04:28 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: thackney; Will88

I don’t smoke, but you are right.


26 posted on 06/24/2008 3:08:32 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Mygirlsmom
There are few aspects of modern existence that don’t depend on petroleum based products.

Incorrect. Those products are currently manufactured using crude oil as the raw material. But they could just as easily -- and in many cases, more easily -- be made from any other organic substance.

27 posted on 06/24/2008 3:30:44 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack
But they could just as easily -- and in many cases, more easily -- be made from any other organic substance.

Oh really? without unintended consequences?
I suppose that in a free market society, the market avoids "the more easy" way because they would rather keep their costs high.

Are you serious?

28 posted on 06/24/2008 4:05:48 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: John David Powell

It’s a start.
How much of the price of NYMEX crude is du to speculation?
How much oil could be produced domestically if every spare resource were put to work producing oil?


29 posted on 06/24/2008 4:11:10 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
"Maybe the author never buys any form of alcohol but it also has the taxes included, not added at the checkout stand."

Actually, at least in California, the sales tax is added at check out.

30 posted on 06/24/2008 4:14:29 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: IronJack
But they could just as easily -- and in many cases, more easily -- be made from any other organic substance.

Of course. There are alternatives, after all.

The current method may be cheaper and simpler, and some manufacturing adjustments would have to be made, but we could always have the ladies chuck the lycra and the spandex and bring back the whalebone corset...

31 posted on 06/24/2008 4:28:37 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: eleni121

Thanks for your comments.

I do take exception, though, at your synonym for “a lie.” I mentioned the Persian Gulf countries because we continually hear about our dependence on “Middle Eastern oil.”

If one really wants to get down and dirty about OPEC, let’s make sure we take aim at Venezuela and that blustering, Castro-sucking, little peasant freak they have for a president


32 posted on 06/24/2008 4:32:37 PM PDT by John David Powell
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To: avacado

Good, I’ve got one for you. Two actually. The first is easy and I think I know the answer already but here goes. Has there ever been a survey of our coastal waters outside those areas we currently drill in? Specifically the East coast of the US.

Second, after reading all the hype about all those leases the oil companies hold that they haven’t exploited I wondered how in depth are the surveys the oil companies conduct in the areas they lease beforehand. According to the oil company execs that replied to the criticism some of those leases contain nothing leading me to believe that accurate surveys aren’t conducted until after the lease is purchased.


33 posted on 06/24/2008 4:33:23 PM PDT by saganite
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To: John David Powell; SAJ
Thanks, (and thanks for the ping, SAJ). First time in a while I have read a post about the industry without getting my hackles up at least once.

That's refreshing, to say the least.

(Wellsite geologist working the Williston Basin and the Rockies since 1979, conventional, directional, and horizontal wellbores in carbonate, clastic and fractured volcanic reservoirs)

34 posted on 06/24/2008 4:33:58 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

Hmm. It’s been a bit since I stopped drinking vodka every night, but I think here in Texas they tack on sales tax at checkout. Same with smokes.

Hey, now I have an excuse to go out and buy some potato juice. Research!


35 posted on 06/24/2008 4:35:36 PM PDT by John David Powell
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To: Positive
Your right, I meant to say "Maybe the author never buys any form of alcohol but it also has the taxes included, not just added at the checkout stand."
36 posted on 06/24/2008 4:38:10 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: RightWhale
... if every spare resource were put to work producing oil

Better have some of the crew building refineries and other infrastructure as you go, and shuttling a few off to work on some nuke plants would do a lot to cut the heating costs for those who use natural gas in the winter.

This (energy in general) is a problem which has been largely ignored while things were cheap, or hammered by the econazis, and we have a bunch of catching up to do all around.

37 posted on 06/24/2008 4:40:17 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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38 posted on 06/24/2008 4:43:45 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Publius6961
By "more easily," I didn't say "more CHEAPLY." The simplest fractions of crude oil are not particularly reactive chemically. That's one of the reasons gasoline burns so dirty. Other raw materials are far more reactive, and much more easily converted into the compounds we historically associate with petrochemicals -- plastics, insecticides, herbicides, solvents.

If crude keeps heading for the stratosphere, it's just a matter of time until the replacements are economically viable.

With any luck, oil's reign is winding down.

39 posted on 06/24/2008 5:09:58 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Or we could step in the 21st century and stop using a dirty, polluting substance that was only used for fuel originally because it was so easy to get to, and that isn’t all that great as a raw material for organic derivatives.


40 posted on 06/24/2008 5:13:01 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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