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Unmarried, Still Children: Children Who’ve Been Raised for Everything but Marriage
Touchstone ^ | June 2008 | Joan Frawley Desmond

Posted on 06/24/2008 3:32:05 PM PDT by rhema

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To: wintertime

Very cryptic response. I’m not directly or indirectly making my living from any government source. What’s wrong with you? No, really?


61 posted on 06/24/2008 4:41:16 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: brwnsuga
I am not whining

I know you're not. And I understand the importance of acquiring marketable skills before taking on responsibilities. But school and work aren't life; they are for the purpose of supporting our lives, and I wouldn't recommend waiting until your thirties to start your life, like so many people do.

62 posted on 06/24/2008 4:46:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: John Will
I’m an Industrial Chemist working in R&D.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My husband is a Ph.D. biochemist and also worked in R&D. I have a doctorate in a health profession.

When my parents were young, it was not expected for young people to go to high school. Eighth grade was sufficient for most jobs and trades that today require at minimum some community college. This is NUTZ!

My maternal grandfather was the general manager of a **large** nation-wide toy factory and he only has some high school. Ditto for my paternal grandfather. He was the assistant manager of the Exide batteries plant in Philadelphia!

Young people could and should be able to do the same. The could if they were given a decent eighth grade education.

By the way, in my health clinic, all resumes for the position of “office assistant” that showed only a high school education went directly into the trash can! Why? Because having some community college experience was the **only** way I could be somewhat sure that the applicant could read and do basic math.

63 posted on 06/24/2008 4:46:55 PM PDT by wintertime (Quick find the RAID!)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Wow, Jeff, that is really profound (ly retarded).

But life IS difficult. And postponing the truly significant aspects of life until it is almost half over will not make it less so.

64 posted on 06/24/2008 4:48:40 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: keats5
"marriage became stronger because we bore our early growing pangs together"

BINGO!
If both parties are serious about the commitment then 'the earlier the better' I say.
I suppose the catch there is how does one know the other's heart? {or even one's own?}

Longer courtships may help, I feel it did for my wife and me..6 years dating thru college; 13 years married...both happy as ever plus now with a 2 yr old!!!

65 posted on 06/24/2008 4:49:50 PM PDT by xhrist ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. " - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Good point. I’m going to marry my kids off at 13 before all the wonder of marriage slips through their old 27 year old fingers. (/good grief)


66 posted on 06/24/2008 4:51:51 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Dante3

He wants a reunion with his captors???? Why? Of course, Cindy was in VN recently doing some type of charity work, I believe. I’m all for forgiveness, but that’s just bizarre.


67 posted on 06/24/2008 4:51:54 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: Dante3
Nancy Grace got married at around 46, has twins now.

Yes, but she likely had to use in vitro fertilization and an egg donor to do so.

Contrary to what the media would have you believe, that doesn't happen very easily (and usually doesn't happen naturally) for women that age.

68 posted on 06/24/2008 4:52:21 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: rhema

Bounce for later reading....


69 posted on 06/24/2008 4:54:28 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
I’m going to marry my kids off at 13 before all the wonder of marriage slips through their old 27 year old fingers.

Yes, that's the other alternative. You make great sense.

70 posted on 06/24/2008 5:01:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: rhema

I grew up in a married and fighting household with dipstick liberal parents who divorced when I was 21. I waited until I was 32 to marry. My husbands’ parents had divorced during the 70s after attending EST....his mom is still a diehard communist. When he married me he was 33. The 60s wreaked havoc on our society. The damage is still reverberating. Why should kids marry at 21 or 22?


71 posted on 06/24/2008 5:07:29 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: wintertime; John Will; ItisaReligionofPeace
Our society is infantilizing our youth....My son didn't take that job, because he was legally too young to have a full-time job, and he wanted to finish his accounting degree....

wintertime, you've recently posted that you are helping your children financially with your grandchildren's schooling and other expenses - most people would consider that 'infantilizing' your children instead of letting them support their own children, and think it is an example of just the sort of thing this article is complaining about.

Now I know that many (most?) people who can afford to do so, and some who can't, enjoy spending money on their grandchildren, but the implication in your post was that helping to educate your grandchildren was almost akin to charity. To my mind, charity would be helping a deserving poor child, while letting your highly successfuly children raise (and support!) their own children.

72 posted on 06/24/2008 5:15:23 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Jeff Chandler

Spoken like a true man. Did you get married young, Jeff? Are you still with that spouse? Are you satisfied with all of the decisions you’ve made? My only regret is that I started “life” and marriage very young, and put off my education.


73 posted on 06/24/2008 5:15:37 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: brwnsuga
Like you, I too married young (20) and started having kids right away. Five kids...almost 26 years of marriage and I am still playing 'catch up' in terms of my education (to get a good paying job instead of the cycle I am in). Its is not easy...my kids have been told (repeatedly) that their education is the most important thing at this point in their lives...no way I would want one of them to marry as young their dad and I did. Truthfully, I don't want them to struggle financially.

Best wishes on your nursing training...you have a very full plate...and I admire your stamina (me...I am exhausted). :)PaMom

74 posted on 06/24/2008 5:25:14 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: brwnsuga

>>Spoken like a true man.
Guilty.

>>Did you get married young, Jeff?
At 20 years old.

>>Are you still with that spouse?
Yes.

>>Are you satisfied with all of the decisions you’ve made?
Of course not. Nobody is. But I’m satisfied with my choice of spouse and the age at witch I married her.


75 posted on 06/24/2008 5:30:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: brwnsuga

The problem is, if they don’t marry, the temptation for sex outside of marriage is very strong.

I don’t think many people want to wait until they are 35 to do it.

I guess most people don’t care? Fornication ain’t no thing any more.

But I care. God’s prescription for sexual desire is marriage. There is a purpose and a blessing in it.

My son married at 18, God bless him. It was that or celibacy! And he wasn’t called to celibacy.

He just finished his degree. They’re fine.


76 posted on 06/24/2008 5:31:58 PM PDT by Marie2 (It's time for a ban on handgun bans)
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To: Jeff Chandler
the age at witch I married her.

ROTFLMAO!!! Freudian slip?! I hope Mrs. Chandler isn't reading this.

77 posted on 06/24/2008 5:32:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: Amelia; wintertime; John Will

Ouch.


78 posted on 06/24/2008 5:34:54 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Jeff Chandler
I've got your back Jeff...you were just Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered...
79 posted on 06/24/2008 5:35:12 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (I am still bitter.)
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To: keats5

Yes, and you can love the wife of your youth. Not try to sift through the memories of 20 different “partners.”


80 posted on 06/24/2008 5:35:18 PM PDT by Marie2 (It's time for a ban on handgun bans)
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