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Pelosi Defends Obama Over Rev. Wright Ties
newsmax.com ^ | June 25, 2008 | Jim Meyers

Posted on 06/25/2008 10:47:35 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Beckwith

I totally agree. I was just pointing out that not being baptized is the least of Obama’s spiritual worries.


21 posted on 06/25/2008 3:59:17 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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I was just pointing out that not being baptized is the least of Obama’s spiritual worries.

I don't care about Obama's spiritual worries - - I am concerned about his dissimulation and mendacity.

Answering one of Rev. Wright's "altar calls" and swearing allegiance to the Black Value System does not make one a Christian - - no matter what anybody says.

If baptism is no longer a requirement of Christianity, then why did Obama have his children baptized?

Unlike traditional Christianity, which Mr. Obama bemoans for its "call to evangelize and proselytize," the good senator’s faith is strictly a personal and private affair. Although he has no qualms about parading it in public in hopes of bolstering his political career, he would never dream of preaching it to others in hopes of converting them to Christ.

At the core of Obama's faith -- whether lapsed Muslim, new Christian or some mixture of the two -- is African nativism and the racist Black Liberation Theology.

The most prominent theologian in this religion, James Cone, teaches that, "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy."

Obama's Religion


22 posted on 06/26/2008 5:30:35 AM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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“Answering one of Rev. Wright’s “altar calls” and swearing allegiance to the Black Value System does not make one a Christian - - no matter what anybody says.”

Agreed again. Of course, I still believe Obama is a muslim...just like most muslims do.


23 posted on 06/26/2008 11:14:37 AM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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On February 27th, 2007, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth.”

In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”

The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:

“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... “

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.

Obama knows this from his Quranic studies — and he knows the New York Times will publish this fact and it will be seen throughout the Islamic world.

Regardless of Obama’s religion, what message is he sending the world’s 1.2 billion Muslims?

I suppose it’s easy for Obama to remember the Shahada for the 35 years since he left Indonesia — and in ‘first-class’ Arabic — especially since he believes the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth.”

The fact that Obama can recall the Shahada after 35 years and the fact that he believes that the daily call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth” say that those Muslim prayers run through his head often — what does that make him?


24 posted on 06/26/2008 3:08:16 PM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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