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Byron York: Barack Obama, Organization Man
The Hill ^ | 6/25/08 | Byron York

Posted on 06/25/2008 2:36:32 PM PDT by Jean S

Do you know what a community organizer does? And if so, do you know what it is about being a community organizer that might qualify one to be president of the United States?

My guess is most people don’t know, and they’re not sure what Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) means when he frequently cites his time as an organizer in Chicago as one of his qualifications for the White House.
I didn’t know either, which is why I went to Chicago recently to learn about Obama’s organizing years, from 1985 to 1988.

And after looking at Obama’s experience there, and talking to the people who worked closely with him, and reading Obama’s own account of the period — well, I’m still not sure what being a community organizer has to do with being president.

Obama accomplished a couple of things during those years in Chicago.

He led a drive to push the city to open a job-placement center on the far South Side, where one hadn’t been before.

And he helped lead a drive to push the city to clean asbestos out of a housing project in the same area.

He took part in a number of other projects. Some big ones, like a plan to bring back jobs for steelworkers hit by plant closings, went nowhere. Others, like plans for after-school programs, were group efforts.

But most people agree his two greatest hits were the job-placement center and the asbestos cleanup.

Now, there’s nothing wrong with that, but it’s not the kind of stuff that would normally be a big part of one’s argument to become president.

On the other hand, it was in Chicago that Obama began to show what is perhaps his greatest gift: his ability to convince people to believe that it is possible to change things.

In his 1995 autobiography, Dreams From My Father, he wrote that when he went to Chicago, he couldn’t quite explain to his friends what community organizers did.

“Instead, I’d pronounce on the need for change,” Obama wrote. “Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the Congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”

Does that sound familiar? Just substitute “Bush” for “Reagan” and you’ve got a pretty close approximation of the Obama campaign.

Obama has been a “change” candidate all his life.

And he could be very persuasive. “He didn’t have experience,” one woman who worked with Obama and had a part in his hiring told me. “But he had a sensitivity that allowed us to believe that he could do the job.”

That sounds familiar, too. Even then, Obama was change you can believe in.

But there’s a question of how much change Obama really wanted to bring about.

Working in a part of Chicago beset by a culture of dysfunction, his agenda for change was strikingly conventional.

More summer jobs. More city spending on this. More spending on that.

In Chicago, Obama learned to organize. But when you ask what he was organizing for, you come up with the same-old, same-old stuff.

And when a truly innovative proposal for change came along — the welfare reform of 1996 — Obama wanted to water it down so it didn’t “punish people.”

In Chicago, Obama’s talent was for convincing people to believe in change, not in actually changing things.

York is a White House correspondent for National Review. His column appears in The Hill each week.
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1 posted on 06/25/2008 2:36:32 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

In the Soviet Union the “Organizational years” were called “Five Year Plans”.


2 posted on 06/25/2008 2:38:45 PM PDT by unkus
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To: GSWarrior
"The drapes....we're going to change the drapes in the White House game room."


3 posted on 06/25/2008 2:39:16 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Jean S

I can’t believe this guy is going to be elected president. It would be a disaster of epic proportions not only for the US but for the entire western world.


4 posted on 06/25/2008 2:40:07 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

What hath GWB wrought? Oprah’s Obama!


5 posted on 06/25/2008 2:42:26 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Jean S

“Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the Congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”
What a buttwart!


6 posted on 06/25/2008 2:43:38 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Jean S
Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed

Self-absorbed? Would this be from the man who thinks he is the one we all have been waiting for?

7 posted on 06/25/2008 2:44:33 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: Jean S

Al Capone was also a Chicago community organizer.


8 posted on 06/25/2008 2:44:37 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

A bit early to call the election, don’t you think?


9 posted on 06/25/2008 2:45:27 PM PDT by counterpunch (John McCain for President - Because we need VICTORY in Iraq, not RETREAT)
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To: Jean S

Listen to Obama’s speaches. When he talks about change, he is talking to the black community. When he says “It’s our turn”, he’s talking to the black community. When in Chicago, he worked for the black community. His experience is with the black community and that is what he will do if ellected.


10 posted on 06/25/2008 2:48:02 PM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2

And he is relying on White Guilt. But white Guilt won’t get him very far.


11 posted on 06/25/2008 2:58:16 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Jean S

>> Obama’s talent was for convincing people to believe in change, not in actually changing things.

I’ve gotten that feeling about Obama — and that’s why I am not quite as freaked out as some on this forum about the prospect of an Obama Presidency.

Let me preface this — I don’t think Obama would be a good President. In fact, I think he’d be a lousy President. I just don’t think he’d be a catastrophic, Republic-collapsing President ... for exactly this reason — I don’t think he’d do much except make big sweeping speeches.

His Senate record is noticeably blank. His ideas for sweeping liberal reforms are noticeably absent. He’s liberal ... but suffers from inertia of the highest sort.

In an Obama Administration, he’ll talk about change, and stay the course in Iraq. He’ll talk about change, and leave the Patriot Act and FISA protections in place. He’ll talk about change ... and change nothing.

I think he’d be a lousy President. But, I just don’t think he’s going to make the sweeping Marxist changes some of his supporters are hoping for. He’s paralyzed by fear of controversy. He won’t hike taxes (much) for fear of hurting the economy. He won’t withdraw from Iraq for fear of causing a catastrophe. He won’t limit counterterrorist activities for fear of inciting an attack. As in his entire political career ... he won’t do anything but talk.

I hope McCain wins, and I think he’s got a good shot. But, ultimately, we’ve survived liberal Presidents before, and I think we’d do so again. The best kind of liberal is the all hat/no cattle kind ... talk big, swagger a bit, and do nothing at all.

H


12 posted on 06/25/2008 3:04:13 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor
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To: unkus

What the jiggins.

Why is he insulting Reagan?

Just awhile back he was comparing himself to Reagan!


13 posted on 06/25/2008 3:12:24 PM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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To: Hemorrhage
I agree that Obama is not the evil-incarnate character some imagine him to be. I think he's a naive, casually-Marxist doofus, like the fat fifty-something dopes you see riding bicycles wearing Che t-shirts.

What I fear most about an Obama presidency is that our real and dangerous enemies abroad will see the same jackass we do and lose the fear of retaliation our nation normally inspires. They will not expect nor receive anything resembling the overwhelming response they deserve when they are loosed.

Under this scenario, literally millions could die - some here, but most in far flung corners of the planet. The Middle East, for example will explode, and Israel will stand alone. I have faith they will do what's necessary, but the devastation will be incredible.

And that's just one hot spot that will get a whole lot hotter. He'll bring "change" alright.

14 posted on 06/25/2008 3:15:40 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: GSWarrior

Love that movie!


15 posted on 06/25/2008 3:22:52 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Jean S

IMO, He’s a communicator. Bill Clinton and George Bush both have the same gift. They know how to reach out and connect with the public. Unfortunately John McCain doesn’t have it. Neither did John Kerry , Al Gore or Bob Dole.


16 posted on 06/25/2008 3:27:33 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: RC2
His experience is with the black community and that is what he will do if ellected.

Can you say reparations? There, I knew you could. Now bend over, this won't hurt a bit, did it?

17 posted on 06/25/2008 3:27:49 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: Hemorrhage

I’m more worried about what those around him will do, or think they have license to do, or will try to do with the expected disastrous results.


18 posted on 06/25/2008 3:28:15 PM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: dead; Hemorrhage
I agree that Obama is not the evil-incarnate character some imagine him to be. I think he's a naive, casually-Marxist doofus, like the fat fifty-something dopes you see riding bicycles wearing Che t-shirts.

That describes Jimmy Carter, too. Not evil incarnate, just a naive Marxist who doesn't see why anyone thinks Israel is morally superior to child killing terrorists and dictators are nice guys.

And, like Carter, he basically says he should get the job (in carter's case, keep the job) because he deserves it.

19 posted on 06/25/2008 3:30:47 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: dead

You captured my fears of the changeling very well.


20 posted on 06/25/2008 3:33:59 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Hey media! Obama goes to Rezko church 6/15/08...Ask him about it)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Brooks’s best, IMO.


21 posted on 06/25/2008 3:35:37 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Jean S
In Chicago, Obama’s talent was for convincing people to believe in change, not in actually changing things.

Change to believe in ... but never delivered.

22 posted on 06/25/2008 3:41:52 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (What value does Black Liberation Theology hold in a post racial Republic?)
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To: Mr. Silverback

>> That describes Jimmy Carter, too. Not evil incarnate, just a naive Marxist who doesn’t see why anyone thinks Israel is morally superior to child killing terrorists and dictators are nice guys.

Looking at the bright side, however ...

Jimmy Carter gave us a rough 4-years — followed by the best 28-year span conservatives (and the country) have seen in a century or two. After Carter ran us off the rails — we got 2 very conservative Reagan terms, one moderately conservative Bush term, two mildly liberal Clinton terms, and two very conservative Bush II terms.

In that time (from 1980 to 2008), we’ve seen the most robust economic growth in the nation’s history, cut taxes a number of times, defeated the Soviet Union, liberated Kuwait and Iraq, got Al Qaida on the run, reformed welfare, etc. We saw conservatives take over both houses of Congress for the first time in a half-century, we saw conservatives begin to retake the Supreme Court w/ Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Alito. We’ve seen the rise of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Fox News ... and the continued fall of the mainstream liberal media.

Its been a great era to be conservative ... and I’m not sure its over. Perhaps Obama wins, and we get 4 more rough years ... perhaps not.

Bottom line — Jimmy Carter is the best thing that ever happened to conservatism and the U.S. Jimmy Carter taught us a hard lesson about liberalism ... and we learned well. Maybe we’ve forgotten ... maybe not. But, we’d survive Obama.

H


23 posted on 06/25/2008 3:42:02 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor
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To: angkor
I’m more worried about what those around him will do, or think they have license to do, or will try to do with the expected disastrous results.

He is nothing more than a sock puppet. He has not credible experience that would qualify him for the POTUS. His handlers who are putting him there are the ones to be fearful of. They want to control the country and mold it into something that is more in keeping with their ideology.

They are Marxist socialists at heart as is Hussein Obama.They hate America, capitalism and Christian religion.

24 posted on 06/25/2008 3:43:02 PM PDT by Born In America (Will vote only for the NON-CLIMATE CHANGE CANDIDATE, irrespective of party affiliation....)
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To: Jean S; Congressman Billybob
"But most people agree his two greatest hits were the job-placement center and the asbestos cleanup."

Pretty thin gruel for more than 3 years of 24/7 "work" as a community organizer. Those two accomplishments could have been achieved with two letters to the editor in a single newspaper.

And interestingly enough, that's about what he's done in his (so far) 4 years in the Senate...almost nothing.

25 posted on 06/25/2008 3:43:41 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Someone who supports murdering born children who survive an abortion is evil incarnate. That is Obama.


26 posted on 06/25/2008 3:48:38 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualProsperity
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To: Born In America

Bingo. You nailed it.


27 posted on 06/25/2008 3:49:36 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualProsperity
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To: CindyDawg
He’s a communicator. Bill Clinton and George Bush both have the same gift.

George (mangled syntax) Bush is a "communicator"?

That's rich! I mean, really, he is bright enough but it's almost painful to listen to him talk.

Regards,
GtG

PS GW's biggest problems resulted from lousy public relations and poor (or totally lacking) communication with the electorate.

28 posted on 06/25/2008 4:00:44 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
GW's biggest problems resulted from lousy public relations and poor (or totally lacking) communication with the electorate.

Which also plagued his father's re-election effort.

29 posted on 06/25/2008 4:03:01 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Jean S
But most people agree his two greatest hits were the job-placement center and the asbestos cleanup.

Good grief. With those "accomplishments" he could hardly get a job as a mayor's aide. IMO a strategic blunder was made by McCain campaign in saying Obama will be formidable etc. Our side should have said all along that Obama has never done anything and expressed incredulity that the dems would pick a nobody like this for such a serious job. Like we don't meet with terrorists because we don't wish to give them such prestige our side should have never accepted Obama as a serious candidate and scoffed at his candidacy.

Obama has no business running for this office.

30 posted on 06/25/2008 4:15:47 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
By no means am I an OB fan but I call it like I see it.

I didn't say he reached out to everyone but he reached out to enough. Watch some of his debates and review how he bonded with the military. The mangled syntax and sheepish grin made him seem more like the rest of us who mangle the English language on a daily basis (sometimes deliberately). Al Gore seemed to come across as speaking well but talking down to people.

Too bad about Dubya though. I don't know what Washington did to him but I hope he has one last fight in him. He (we) may need it. Prayers for him.

31 posted on 06/25/2008 4:22:48 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Hemorrhage
I just don’t think he’d be a catastrophic, Republic-collapsing President ... for exactly this reason — I don’t think he’d do much except make big sweeping speeches.

What you need to understand is that he is nothing but a Polished, Programmed Puppet.

It's the Puppeteers - the ones pulling the strings - that will be catastrophic for this country...

All he is is a polished figurehead...like the figurehead on a schooner - he will be in charge of nothing...

It's the Daley Machine and the Black Liberationists we'd all best be very aware of

32 posted on 06/25/2008 4:22:58 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: Jean S

Now we know why our enemies want Obama to win.


33 posted on 06/25/2008 4:27:36 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: dead

And you don’t think that all the huge possible consequences in the world of an obama presidency allow to speak of big danger,big evil?


34 posted on 06/25/2008 4:37:20 PM PDT by Ulysse
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To: maine-iac7
John McCain doesn't seen personable enough to compete with him on personality IMO. Maybe his handlers...the ones pulling his strings could work on that?

What I do see he has going for him is security though. One of my biggest concerns was JM's temper and him getting mad and doing something crazy. After listening to OB though...JM is looking more and more ah...can't think of how to describe it..maybe stable? That's scary, huh?:')

35 posted on 06/25/2008 4:39:19 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Hemorrhage
re #12

Whereas your premise seems sound, the fear is him going along with anything Congress sends his way. That is where the majority of the marxism will come from.

36 posted on 06/25/2008 4:41:36 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: keepitreal
Self-absorbed? Would this be from the man who thinks he is the one we all have been waiting for?
 

37 posted on 06/25/2008 5:05:41 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Baseball, Hotdogs, Apple Pie & John McCain!)
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To: Jean S

Good article.

But breaking news?


38 posted on 06/25/2008 5:08:51 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: SlapHappyPappy

Yeah, it’s breaking news. If you think otherwise, hit the abuse button.


39 posted on 06/25/2008 5:31:12 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Born In America

agreed. ANd with a dem congress, Pelosi et al, Obama is not going to know what hit him when the power behind him takes over. Obama is very naive.


40 posted on 06/25/2008 5:35:07 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Hemorrhage; B4Ranch
Jimmy Carter taught us a hard lesson about liberalism ... and we learned well. Maybe we’ve forgotten ... maybe not. But, we’d survive Obama.

Only in the short term.

Among Presidents who served at least one full term, Carter is the only one who never made an appointment to the Supreme Court. Bomba could appoint up to three, and that, in my book, is a kiss the republic goodbye proposition. You think Earl Warren's reign of terror was fun, you ain't seen nothin. Just take a glance in there between those penumbras.

Conservatives are losing sleep over the Heller decision due out tomorrow? They'll be mainlining thorazine when the first half-white black president is finished (yes, of course, Clinton was the first white black president).

41 posted on 06/25/2008 5:43:36 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: Jean S
Off topic, Dennis Miller is blasting Barry on the Factor. Says Barry playing the “race card” card is one third whiny, one third creepy and one third boring. Says that he liked him but wasn't going to vote for him...now he's not voting for him and he doesn't like him. Great rant by Dennis.
42 posted on 06/25/2008 5:46:02 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: CindyDawg
It's been a wild ride, for sure.

But the O man makes it necc. to vote for McC - and let's hope he has a really good running mate...

The world in the hands of the O man and his Puppeteers is too frightening to contemplate. There are too many people today who don't understand that this country can fall to the Marxists = it's already on the cusp...

43 posted on 06/25/2008 6:11:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: Jean S
Do you know what a community organizer does?

Less than a "peanut farmer made governor" does however if the tread continues, we will have Jimma' Carter REDUX.

If this happens, hold on to your property, forget your wallet for comfort, for what is in it will be worth less, and train yourself for a 10 hour day at work if you commute for a part of your day will be waiting in line to fill up.

Oh, and if you aren't employed by the government, it's easier....

Just kiss your livelihood good bye.

44 posted on 06/25/2008 6:19:46 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Jean S
THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA


45 posted on 06/25/2008 6:44:00 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: EGPWS

The peanut farmer had a heck of a lot more eperience and a lot less ethical problems than this guy. We are so screwed.


46 posted on 06/25/2008 6:50:32 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: maine-iac7

I still think it will be Hillary against John McCain though. It will be ugly but I don’t think she’s done.


47 posted on 06/25/2008 7:06:33 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Jean S

Like many have noted, Obama is an Angel with Lucerifian/Machiavellian staff. Worse, meaner and more focused than Ron Paul’s while the primaries were still wide open.


48 posted on 06/25/2008 7:22:38 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: keepitreal

Why in the hell do the “Creative Arts” Lefties want a complete control freak in the White house? Have they gone nuts? The whole “change” of the mood(the same mood that the Lefties attacked in the 80s, though the funny thing is that they were inadvertently attacking their own) thing, healing the planet and Obama will “change the way we do things” sounds a lot like a dictatorial manipulator. Sounds like the kind of guy who will re-write the Patriot Act to include as terrorists, Oil Companies who “pollute the environment”(on the way of Dr. Hanssen) and people who don’t drive hybrids.

Anybody who relies on the federal government to change the way we think, is only kidding themselves or is dangerous. We are supposed to change the way the government thinks, not the opposite. And this from so-called “Hands off our bodies” Liberals. This is what happens when instead of individual freedoms there are collective freedoms rolled up in Ultra-Feminism or any kind of guise.


49 posted on 06/25/2008 7:41:10 PM PDT by Merta (They Call Me The Ranting Man)
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To: Ulysse
I really don't even understand what you wrote.

I think you were trying to say that I didn't think an Obama presidency would be a disaster. I thought I covered that with "millions dead."

50 posted on 06/25/2008 7:59:43 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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