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Dem pledges: I'll 'rip apart' child-rape victims on stand
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | June 25, 2008

Posted on 06/26/2008 4:13:28 AM PDT by Man50D

Massachusetts politician and defense attorney Rep. James Fagan is under intense public scrutiny after he promised to "rip apart" child victims of rape who testify if the state imposes strict sentences for sex offenders.

Fagan, a Democrat, made his controversial remarks on the state House floor, Fox News reported.

"I'm gonna rip them apart," Fagan said of child victims. "I'm going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined, that when they're 8 years old, they throw up; when they're 12 years old, they won't sleep; when they're 19 years old, they'll have nightmares and they'll never have a relationship with anybody."

As a defense attorney, Fagan said he would prevent accused child sex offenders from experiencing a "mandatory sentence of those draconian proportions."

According to the report, his statements angered both colleagues and activists.

"I thought his comments were over the top and unnecessary," said Bradley Jones, Massachusetts House minority leader. "I appreciate that he's a defense attorney, and felt he had a point to make, but I think it was unnecessary. It was excessive."

Mark Lunsford, a Florida father who lost his 9-year-old daughter after she was kidnapped, wrapped in a trash bag and buried alive by a sex offender in 2005, said he was shocked by Fagan's remarks. He told the Boston Herald that Fagan should have more respect for the rights of sexually abused children.

"Why doesn't he figure out a way to defend that child and put these kind of people away instead of trying to figure ways for defense attorneys to get around Jessica's Law?" Lunsford asked. "These are very serious crimes that nobody wants to take serious. What about the rights of these children?"

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KEYWORDS: fagan; jamesfagan; tenpeat
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To: Man50D

WWJD

Matthew 18:5-7 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society

5”And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. 6But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

7”Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin! Such things must come, but woe to the man through whom they come!


41 posted on 06/26/2008 6:25:07 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: gridlock
I kind of suspect that former was the point he was trying to make, however.

Then why didn't he use the word "they" instead of "I"?

I noticed you started that sentence with "I", indicating that those are your thoughts.

42 posted on 06/26/2008 7:13:57 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: Barb4Bush

“Scary that a bastard like this is involved with all those children’s organizations and strangely, only children’s organizations.”

It does raise the creep factor to a new level doesn’t it.
What’s this guy’s personal story?
Wife? children?


43 posted on 06/26/2008 7:21:36 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: F-117A
Then why didn't he use the word "they" instead of "I"?

I dunno. Maybe he's a Drama Queen. It is an annoyong rhetorical device, but nothing to toss the man in the stocks over.

44 posted on 06/26/2008 7:24:05 AM PDT by gridlock (Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons.)
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To: All

The reality is that this loon is threatening children if he doesn’t get his way on a piece of legislation. That’s not rhetoric.


45 posted on 06/26/2008 7:31:25 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: massgopguy

Sick ba$tard


46 posted on 06/26/2008 7:52:29 AM PDT by Carley
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To: All

This man deserves a horrible, painful death after he has been raped by a gang of illegal aliens. BTW, I will not apologize for wishing such suffering on a piece of human debris like this. Using your profession as an excuse to commit vile acts shouldn’t work for Nazi Generals or lawyers...


47 posted on 06/26/2008 9:08:08 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Man50D

Fagan is one sick bastard....he needs a psychological evaluation immediately


48 posted on 06/26/2008 10:26:31 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda ( MUST SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgHkxIfgBc)
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To: Maverick68
Yeah, you're far better than he is...

*rolling eyes*

49 posted on 06/26/2008 10:57:32 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Teacher317

Actually I am. I advocate destroying those who rape children whilst he defends the scum and hides behind his lawyerly shield . Any other lame attempts at insulting my character? Feel free, because your compulsion to (in a defacto manner) defend this creep (in an indirect and sarcastic manner) affirms my attitude not to give two sh$ts what people think about me when it comes to my attitude on crime and punishment. Craving the destruction of evil in all its forms is not a sign of weakness. Let God have mercy on him if he decides to mend his evil heart and soul, but as for me, I hope this punk gets an assload of karma! Have a goodun’!


50 posted on 06/26/2008 11:40:54 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Abathar

"Ummm.... He sure seems to spend a lot of time around little boys, doesn’t he?"

He's married and has six sons, well actually five as I understand that one of his sons died in a February 2008 accident.

51 posted on 06/26/2008 11:50:39 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Scotswife
Representative James H. Fagan (MA)

Current Office: State House

Current District: Third Bristol

Party: Democratic

Background Information

Gender: Male

Family: Wife: Christine

6 Children: Michael, Patrick, Daniel, Kevin, Matthew, James.

Birth Date: 10/13/1947

Birthplace: Taunton, MA

Home City: Taunton, MA

Religion: R.C.

52 posted on 06/26/2008 11:59:02 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Mila

Good to know, I tend to always side for the kids and took his rant very personally and immediately went to look for a good reason WHY he would say such things.

I still think he went completely overboard though on his statements, defense lawyer or not.


53 posted on 06/26/2008 12:08:08 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar
"I still think he went completely overboard though on his statements, defense lawyer or not."

Agreed!

54 posted on 06/26/2008 12:10:53 PM PDT by Mila
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To: Abathar

For him to make a statement like this, without having a specific witness in front of him, and without having particular testimony that he’s talking about, SHOWS AN OBVIOUS PREJUDICE.

He should be disbarred. He is incapable and brings ill repute on the court.

And after that, he oughta be horsewhipped.


55 posted on 06/26/2008 12:18:56 PM PDT by djf (I don't believe in perpetual motion. Perpetual mutton, that's another thing entirely!)
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To: Man50D
"I'm going to make sure that the rest of their life is ruined, that when they're 8 years old, they throw up; when they're 12 years old, they won't sleep; when they're 19 years old, they'll have nightmares and they'll never have a relationship with anybody." - Fagan

Fagan is easily as despicable as the child rapists he defends; it's a labor of love.

O'Reilly's going to have a segment on this piece of excrement in a few minutes.

56 posted on 06/26/2008 5:42:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Man50D
Here he is...


57 posted on 06/26/2008 6:09:28 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Here’s some video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aq-NJ1YQu8M


58 posted on 06/26/2008 6:12:57 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: djf
A recall petition should be started.
59 posted on 06/26/2008 6:21:10 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: djf

I guess I’ll be the first one to disagree with just about every statement made on here about this guy’s “ranting”.

I guarantee you — that if any one of you was being falsely accused of molesting or raping or touching a child — with the outrageous sex offender laws in this country being what they are — totally swinging to the opposite side of where they should be, and completely ineffective at preventing ANY child from being sexually abused at all — you would be hiring this guy to represent you in a heartbeat — and you would mortgage your house and go broke to pay him every single penny.

He’s doing his job as a defense attorney. In case you forgot (I know it’s not a reality, but in writing and in theory it is supposed to be the law of the land) — you are “innocent until proven guilty”. In order to protect citizens constitutional rights to a fair trial by a jury of their peers, we HAVE to have vigorous and vigilant defense attorneys EXACTLY like this guy to protect the rights of the accused. They HAVE to make sure that “victims” are in fact, “victims” and not pawns of their parents or of bitter divorcing parents who coerce their children into accusations that have no basis in reality.

There are too many innocent men locked up in prison in this country. AND there are too many men who made grave mistakes with respect to children who CAN be rehabilitated and turned around to learn how to think and act and behave differently, to make sure it doesn’t happen again. Sex offender treatment programs are highly effective at keeping the recidivism rates for sex offenders at an all-time low. There are reasons for this, but you’d actually have to do some homework and research on your own to understand it.

Any and all of you piously spouting your outrage at what this defense attorney / politician said publicly would hire him to defend YOU or your loved one in one second, would you be accused AND if you could afford it.

Yep — that’s a fact.


60 posted on 06/26/2008 6:42:24 PM PDT by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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