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Posted on 06/26/2008 1:14:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Why is he not listed as Barack Hussein Obama Jr.? If I recall correctly, the numeral II is commonly used instead of "junior" when a relative who is not the father (e.g., an uncle) has the same name.
An insipid Red Herring that only works to Obama's advantage by painting Conservatives as Tinfoil Hat uni-brow maroons!
There are major critical issues that must be addressed concerning Obama, yet to many individuals are getting wrapped around the axle instead of pulling the wagon.
But is he a natural born citizen? If this is the case how many US citizens are there in Vietnam, France, Germany, Britain, Japan, the Philippines (WW2)?
Figures. The man is just creepy. He has too many hidden aspects of his life. I will NOT feel safe if he were president, I would feel like the end has come.
Word from the auto plants: If Obama loses there will be violence. They will assume he lost due to dishonesty.
Personally, if he wins I will assume it was due to dishonesty.
It doesn't say anything else.
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This whole thing is ridiculous. Even if the allegations were true, no one would realistically say he was ineligible. The backlash would be stunning.
This is a lot of ink spilled over a non-story. The conspiracy theory game is fun, but I doubt it will make any meaningful impact on the campaign.
Then McCain would also be ineligible, which is maybe what some people would want (a primary do-over?).
At the end of the day on January 20, 2009, either McCain or Obama will be Prez.
If he was born outside of the US, but one of his parents is a US citizen, he can be naturalized as a US citizen.
... or has something else to hide.
"An insipid Red Herring that only works to Obama's advantage by painting Conservatives as Tinfoil Hat uni-brow maroons!,
Couldn't agree more! All it takes to debunk this urban legend is a modicum of intelligent thought. Every US Congressman/Senator is subject to the same security background investigation that servicemen are subjected to before they are granted access to classified information. To believe this fairy-tale is to believe that all of the American security agencies charged with granting the nation's highest security clearances have conspired with one senator to hide his citizenship status. Hell--they interviedwed my ex-wife when my clearance was reviewed.
How did the father get the baby into the country? Did he walk across the border and then 18 years later claim the mother was American with no documentation? Any old Jose or Kumar could make that claim.
Any baby that enters the country has to have a passport just like an adult. If there is a live birth abroad, the US State Department instructs having the birth registered in the home State when the parents return to the US. This isn't rocket science. There are procedures and process that have to be followed.
If Obama's mother, against exorbitant odds, cheated the system; his Birth Certificate would never indicate that, no matter what it said. Carry this idiotic delusion to any possible conclusion. Any supposed discrepancies are meaningless conjecture and are not worth the time it takes to think of them.
Canal Zone was U.S. territory when McCain was born.
No. It is not. The requirement is that you are a "natural born" citizen, not a "naturalized" citizen. Every citizen KNOWS if they were naturalized or not, becaus it requires work and taking an oath, etc. Obama was certainly not Naturalized.
John McCain was not born here, he was born in Panama. None the less he was a citizen since birth. He did not, at any point, have to through naturalization. That is because both his parents were US citizens, which gave him automatic "birth right" citizenshp.
The question with Obama is 1) was he born in the USA (which would give him birth-right citizenship and 2) if not, what law they either gives or denies him citizenship based on his 1 parent being a citizen.
The laws circa 1960 were written in such a way that one parent being a citizen, child born in a foriegn land - citizenship was NOT automatic. This was to prevent a flood of babies fathered by US Servicemen while abroad (sorry!).
Some have claimed that a later law retroactively changed this to include cases like Obama. I'm not sure which is true.
There is only one issue. Get the government out of our business. That leaves a lot of time to find out if Osama is a natural born citizen.
Obama's mother was a US citizen - a nutjob to be sure - but a US citizen.
Her natural children would be US citizens - no matter where they were born
Hawaii became a state in 1959 - Obama wasn't born until 1961
Obama is a US citizen. There's no way that is not true.
It's unfortunate - but there you are
So true! My DD form 398 for my TS clearance included the entire story of my life up to that point. A Navy Captain interviewed my old Explorer Post Advisor in person. [really impressed the crowd back home]
Jr. would be traditional, but I know a couple of sons who are named “II”
“Why? So they can nominate Hillary, who’s a lot more electable than Hussein?”
I hate to say it, but we’re probably better off with Hillary then Obama if it came down to that. I think ultimately you are right, Hillary is more electable.
Why did any negative Obama news drop off the radar when he won the nomination? The media seems to be back into fawning over Obama like they were early in the primaries.
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