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Oregon Health Care: Suicide is Painless–and Cheaper
DBKP ^ | June 27, 2008 | pat

Posted on 06/27/2008 8:19:22 AM PDT by mondoreb

The Oregon Health Plan:
The Reality of When the Government Runs Health Care

"Elect me and your health care problems will all be over."

The people of Oregon fell for that line almost 20 years ago. Expecting Utopia, what they got was a reality check: long lines for a lottery to pick who's covered and suicide coverage--instead of cancer drugs.


In 1989. Oregon became the second State, after Hawaii, to attempt complete medical coverage of it's citizens.

It has not gone as planned.

In fact, it seems to be approaching disaster. Within a few years:

In early 2003, the Oregon Health Plan (OHP) implemented cost saving strategies, reducing benefits and increasing cost-sharing for a substantial portion of its members
Cost-sharing meant that people were being charged premium for the previously funded care. So we have a reduction in Medical care and services, and increased cost. But the degeneration of the plan did not end there. In March of this year, wire services carried the following:
Tens of thousands of Oregonians queued up quickly for a chance at the state’s latest lottery, but this one is no game.

Officials began drawing names last week for a chance at some rare openings in the state’s healthcare plan.

Announced in February, the lottery drew 91,675 hopefuls in 30 days. The winners will receive a postcard notifying them that they can apply for the Oregon Health Plan.

"Budget limitations capped the Oregon Health Plan standard benefit package in mid-2004. Now the plan has room for a few thousand people. The lottery winners will be the first new applicants since the cap was imposed.


(Excerpt) Read more at deathby1000papercuts.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; healthcare; lottery; moralabsolutes; oregon; prolife; suicide
Promises about the wonders of government health care are just that: promises made by politicians whose most important concern is getting elected, not health or care.
1 posted on 06/27/2008 8:19:22 AM PDT by mondoreb
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To: mondoreb
At a time when Canada is embracing private competition, Oregon continues to make sure people can get health care only if they win the lottery!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 06/27/2008 8:21:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: mondoreb

Hint: don’t retire in Oregon.


3 posted on 06/27/2008 8:22:45 AM PDT by BigFinn (NoBama 2008. NoMcCain 2008. Anybody out there?)
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To: mondoreb

Bush’s fault.


4 posted on 06/27/2008 8:22:47 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: mondoreb

I don’t think those officals will be standing in long lines.


5 posted on 06/27/2008 8:24:32 AM PDT by Radl
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To: goldstategop

There was a recent story telling of a situation were Oregon declined a woman’s cancer drugs but offered to pay for assisted suicide instead.

How disgusting. What false hope this whole government health care is.

I’m in favor of some sort of national major medical insurance pool that people BUY into when they don’t have alternatives. But I’m totally against our government interference with our doctors and their care for us. I also think something should be done about the trial lawyers but with the democrats in charge that’d be a cold day in hell.


6 posted on 06/27/2008 8:26:54 AM PDT by Aria
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To: Radl
It makes the DMV look fast and compassionate.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 06/27/2008 8:27:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: mondoreb

Odd.

Socialized control of ________ lead to shortages of ________, rationing of _______, high system costs for _______ and poor quality of _________, if you can find it.

Who could have foreseen such a thing?


8 posted on 06/27/2008 8:29:40 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: goldstategop

I don’t know how old you are but I certainly remember the attitude of Postal Office workers before they had competition from UPS. One guy working the window and people standing in long lines was usually what you experienced back then. It isn’t much better now. One thing is for certain...if the government gets involved there will not be an Emergency room...nothing will qualify as an emergency.


10 posted on 06/27/2008 8:35:18 AM PDT by Radl
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To: mondoreb
Did you know you cant even pump your own gas in Oregon???

I had a rental car from San Deigo and had driven up to see some friends in Medford. I stopped at what I thought was a self serve pump and opened the cap on the car and picked up a nozzle and put it in. About that time this guy from the station came running over to me and he was in a tizzy.

He had to take the nozzle out and stop the whole transaction then start it over again. I couldn't even swipe my credit card in the pump! I had to hand it to him so he could do it. He said they passed a law to outlaw self service gas pumps to help the state jobless rates and that he could get huge fines if anyone saw me pumping my own gas.

Right there I thought “Well I never have to plan to move to Oregon!!!”

11 posted on 06/27/2008 8:37:59 AM PDT by Syntyr ( Freepers - In the top %5 of informed Americans!)
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To: Syntyr
He said they passed a law to outlaw self service gas pumps.....

Actually, Oregon has not outlawed self service. Oregon has never allowed self service gas pumps. Assisted suicide and assisted auto service. What a combination.

12 posted on 06/27/2008 8:44:49 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: BigFinn

How do you say Euthanaisa in HiSpanish.


13 posted on 06/27/2008 8:55:12 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: BigFinn

How do you say Euthanaisa in HiSpanish.


14 posted on 06/27/2008 8:55:17 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Syntyr
Did you know you cant even pump your own gas in Oregon???

I enjoy not having to pump my fuel.

No smelly hands and time to clean my windows.

During our long wet fall/winter/spring we do not have to get soaked pumping gas. I will happily stay in my car while the summer heat is here also.

Our unleaded yesterday was $4.16-$4.29 depending on where we get our fuel here in Grants Pass.

No complaints here.

15 posted on 06/27/2008 8:56:48 AM PDT by wanderin
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To: jimtorr

and to others above:

All great info and comments...I didn’t know about the assisted gas pumping.. Interesting!

The cancer patient’s suicide-instead-of-drugs is contained in the latter part of this article.

Thanks!


16 posted on 06/27/2008 8:59:26 AM PDT by mondoreb
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To: mondoreb

Liberalism is just another name for nihilistic materialism - nothing matters, all is futility, we are no higher than animals, there is no free will, no soul, no hope, no nothing.
No wonder liberals have no sense of humor!


17 posted on 06/27/2008 10:06:07 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: null and void

funny....


18 posted on 06/27/2008 10:59:00 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: mondoreb
SUICIDE IS PAINLESS.......

The theme song to what TV series?

19 posted on 06/27/2008 11:04:52 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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20 posted on 06/27/2008 1:46:05 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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21 posted on 06/27/2008 2:23:49 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb; floriduh voter

Ping


22 posted on 06/27/2008 2:26:18 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wtc911

Through early morning fog I see visions of the things to be
The pains that are withheld for me I realize and I can see . . .
That suicide is painless it brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.

I try to find a way to make all our little joys relate
Without that ever-present hate but now I know that it’s too late,
and . . .That suicide is painless it brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.

The game of life is hard to play. I’m gonna lose it anyway.
The losing card I’ll someday lay so this is all I have to say.
That suicide is painless it brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.

The only way to win is cheat and lay it down before I’m beat,
and to another give my seat for that’s the only painless feat.
That suicide is painless it brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.

The sword of time will pierce our skins it doesn’t hurt when it begins
But as it works its way on in the pain grows stronger . . . watch it grin, but . . .
That suicide is painless it brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.

A brave man once requested me to answer questions that are key
‘Is it to be or not to be’ and I replied ‘oh why ask me?’
That suicide is painless it brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.
And you can do the same thing if you choose.


And yet, what the death culters refuse to acknowledge, is that Captain Waldowski, the dentist better known as “Painless” was prevented by his fellow doctors from committing suicide. They faked a doctor assisted suicide as part of their ruse to interfere with his plan to commit suicide. The death cultists try to influence opinion with this song, without acknowledging that it actually represents exactly the opposite of what they claim.

Þ


23 posted on 06/27/2008 4:12:13 PM PDT by BykrBayb (www.lifeforlauren.org Ʋ)
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To: BykrBayb

I knew the answer of course...I also knew that somebody in freepdom would come through...thanks.


24 posted on 06/27/2008 6:35:17 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

Wasn’t it also used in the movie?


25 posted on 06/27/2008 6:41:26 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ( Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: ThomasThomas
It was from the movie then used without the lyrics for the series.

The film was better than the series but the book (by Robert Hooker?) was better than the film.

26 posted on 06/27/2008 7:07:35 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

You’re welcome. I’m just sorry I’m not able to post the mp3 file for download.


27 posted on 06/27/2008 7:53:55 PM PDT by BykrBayb (www.lifeforlauren.org Ʋ)
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To: mondoreb; wagglebee
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


28 posted on 06/28/2008 2:42:53 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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