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Creationist Bill Signed by Jindal
LGF ^ | June 27, 2008

Posted on 06/27/2008 2:04:21 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: GourmetDan
And what force, pray-tell, moves the sun around the earth?; considering the sun is many MILLIONS of times more massive.

Apparently gravity is another theory you have fundamental problems with.

And what explains the stars retrograde motions? Epicycles? Epicycles within epicycles? Why do you think things would move in epicycles in the absence of evidence?

61 posted on 06/27/2008 3:10:35 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: firebrand
"Establishing what those laws are is the task of science. Anyone who can take high school chemistry and physics and not be awed by these laws is not paying attention."

Uh, no.

Establishing what those laws are was the gift of God.

"It depends what you mean by traditional interpretation. I believe everything in the Bible, but not as literally as some."

Tell me something you think has been disproved by 'science' and I will explain why it was not.

62 posted on 06/27/2008 3:12:00 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: weegee
Why aren’t people fighting as hard against the mythology of man made global climate change?

They're trying. They're finding evidence in ice cores they're drilling out of the Antarctic going back 400,000 years that disputes the claims of the global warming crowd. Doesn't do us any good if we have to discard that evidence as obviously flawed because nothing can be more than 6,000 years old.

63 posted on 06/27/2008 3:13:25 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: EveningStar

Gee, just when I think this guy might be different.


64 posted on 06/27/2008 3:15:39 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: allmendream
"OMG!!!! Australopithecus is NOT and has NEVER been proposed to be an ancestor of modern apes."

Bruce Morton of CNN thinks it was. :)

65 posted on 06/27/2008 3:15:46 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving a Phase Two Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber.)
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To: firebrand
Bye bye, Bobby. You weren’t really in the running for VP anyway, but now thank God you’re gone.

Yeah, this bill passed by overwhelming margins and reflects the desire for freedom sought by the c. 90% of the country that shares ID beliefs, so it would be political suicide to embrace it.

I don't believe in evolution. But I sure believe in devolution, and evolutionsts themselves are prime evidence for it.

66 posted on 06/27/2008 3:15:55 PM PDT by Liberty1970
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To: allmendream
"And what force, pray-tell, moves the sun around the earth?; considering the sun is many MILLIONS of times more massive. Apparently gravity is another theory you have fundamental problems with. And what explains the stars retrograde motions? Epicycles? Epicycles within epicycles? Why do you think things would move in epicycles in the absence of evidence?"

You don't understand the implications of the statements that Einstein, Hoyle, Born and Ellis made.

Gravity still drives everything. As I have explained to you before, geocentrists (and Einstein, Hoyle, Born and Ellis) consider the entire universe while geokineticists don't.

I just don't think you are capable of understanding it.

67 posted on 06/27/2008 3:17:24 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
Tell me something you think has been disproved by 'science' and I will explain why it was not.

Let's start with the once commonly accepted idea that maggots spontaneously generated from rotten meat.

68 posted on 06/27/2008 3:19:04 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Matchett-PI

If students actually learned science in school, I’d be concerned about this. However those students that are creationist will just rebel against evolution and the rest won’t learn anything.

Compulsory public education is basically the vehicle for communist thinking these days ie pollution is evil, racism is evil = the US is evil. Who cars if the curriculum has anything to do with the scientific method?


69 posted on 06/27/2008 3:19:19 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: GourmetDan
Maybe I stated that wrong. God established the laws. Scientists discover them.

Nothing has been disproved by science. That isn't what I said. You can't go back in time and prove that something didn't happen literally the way it is described in the Bible. When something contradicts common sense, as a snake talking for instance, you're in the realm of a different kind of truth.

70 posted on 06/27/2008 3:22:05 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: tacticalogic
"Let's start with the once commonly accepted idea that maggots spontaneously generated from rotten meat."

Ah, the misrepresentation starts immediately.

That was an naturalistic idea, along with the naturalistic idea that garbage spontaneously generated rats.

It's where the idea of abiogenesis came from.

71 posted on 06/27/2008 3:22:51 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
Yes, and last time you explained your “model” you threw planetary gravity in there, which is ludicrous considering the minuscule effect of Jupiter's gravity (something like one sixty millionth as much force as the Sun).

SO the entire universe conspires to pull the sun around the earth? What makes it go in 24 hour and 365 day cycles?

Einstein wasn't a geocentrist. You must be oh so much smarter than him to “correctly” interpret his theory to put the earth in the center where human ego demands that it be.

All glory to God and the Heavens. Not man and earth.

72 posted on 06/27/2008 3:23:19 PM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: tacticalogic; GourmetDan

I think Dan meant something from the Bible.


73 posted on 06/27/2008 3:23:29 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
"Nothing has been disproved by science."

That's correct.

I thought you were thinking that science has disproved a young earth/universe, creation, geocentrism or something like that.

74 posted on 06/27/2008 3:25:26 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: WVKayaker
High Priests of Evo----ism Get Their .. Caught in the Wringer Agian Ping.
75 posted on 06/27/2008 3:26:56 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder.)
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To: Matchett-PI

I am going to come back to this. Too long for me to read now, as I have other things to do on the computer.


76 posted on 06/27/2008 3:27:43 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: GourmetDan
Well, yes, in that sense some suppositions of Bible readers have been disproved.

What you are proving in your replies is that science and religion are two different realms. It makes no sense to even think about science going back in time and proving or disproving something in the Bible, or supposed from the Bible.

What is that wonderful phrase again? Nonoverlapping magisteria, or something like that. Even if it was uttered by an atheist, it's a nice phrase.

77 posted on 06/27/2008 3:32:23 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: KantianBurke
Did the bill explain how dinosaurs are actually less than 10,000 yrs old? (sarcasm off)

Guys like you give me a pain. There is no fossil trail that supports evolution, not evolution from one species to another, such as fish to reptiles. You do not have to be a Christian to believe in creationism, I am not a Christian and do not believe in evolution. there is too much evidence that contradicts it. Yes, Dinos were here millions of years ago and went extinct about 65 million years ago, give or take a million. Now explain to me how life started on this planet, something no evo has ever been able to do, explain to me the exact evolutionary steps of insects, something no evo has ever been able to do.

Evolution is not an exact science and is full of holes that can't be proved except by fabricating evidence. Open your mind to a third possibility, one that hasn't even been postulated yet. Forget the false doctrine of evolution, it is wrong and has proven so.

Evos are just like left wing a**holes, they thing because they say something it is true. Goodbye.

78 posted on 06/27/2008 3:33:30 PM PDT by calex59
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To: allmendream
"Yes, and last time you explained your “model” you threw planetary gravity in there, which is ludicrous considering the minuscule effect of Jupiter's gravity (something like one sixty millionth as much force as the Sun)."

All gravity is considered and that is not ludicrous. What is ludicrous is ignoring everything but the solar system.

"SO the entire universe conspires to pull the sun around the earth? What makes it go in 24 hour and 365 day cycles?"

Again, I don't think you are capable of understanding the concept. (esp since you already anthropomorphize the universe.)

"Einstein wasn't a geocentrist. You must be oh so much smarter than him to “correctly” interpret his theory to put the earth in the center where human ego demands that it be."

I never said he was a geocentrist. He interpreted his own theory for us, in the quote.

"All glory to God and the Heavens. Not man and earth."

"You have said it yourself." Matthew 26:64 NASB

79 posted on 06/27/2008 3:34:22 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: firebrand
I think Dan meant something from the Bible.

Ah. We're going to have an exercise in sophistry over what constitues "proof".

80 posted on 06/27/2008 3:35:21 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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