Posted on 06/27/2008 9:17:01 PM PDT by evangmlw
Tampa: Prohibition against firearms on USAA property remains in effect
Published 6/27/2008 USAA's policy prohibiting firearms anywhere on USAA property remains in effect at all locations. The policy remains in effect despite a new Florida law limiting such policies.
Background On July 1, a new law takes effect in Florida that restricts employers' ability to prohibit guns at the workplace. However, that law also includes an exemption for properties that include school facilities, such as our Child Development Center (CDC).
As a result, USAA's policy prohibiting guns in the workplace will remain in effect even after the law takes effect July 1.
Misleading headline
I don’t remember that on the stockholders meeting agenda the last time I got my proxy documents .
Link?
What’s misleading about it?
No link available, internal correspondence.
They aren't defying the law.
...and are you sure that's USAA's internal headline?
Would you prefer “stretching the law?” The child development center is a day care, not a school. The day care facility is in a separate building from the office and not associated with the 6 story concrete deck parking lot. I think implying the property is a school facility is quite a stretch. Have you read the Florida Statutes on concealed permits and the “Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008?”
I stand corrected on misunderstanding: The Headline Is My Own Thoughts
The Correspondence Headline is: Tampa: Prohibition against firearms on USAA property remains in effect
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
What makes you think so?
Whatever it says.
"Stretching the law" could be in brackets after. :-)
Have you read the Florida Statutes on concealed permits and the “Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008?”
Yes, as well as the pre-passage analyses, which pointed out the constitutional issues with trying to interfere with private-property rights, as well as recommending that "school proprty" be explicitly defined. AFAIK, that didn't happen.
Of course, this is likely all academic, with the federal court review already in progress.
The child development center is a day care, not a school. The day care facility is in a separate building from the office and not associated with the 6 story concrete deck parking lot. I think implying the property is a school facility is quite a stretch.
Now that's good info to include as commentary. Thank you!
The law goes into effect Monday. I’m sure the appeal will continue, however; the first judge reviewing the case refused to rule on the appeal at this time. I’m sure USAA has confered with their legal staff and are preparing for battle.
They are not a public entity, they are private business and as such can make the rules for their properties.
A municipal building or a public street would be different. We the citizens pay for those things, and as such we the citizens set the rules with a vote.
Now USAA being a private company stockholders own the private company. As such they can make the rules for their company. The only ones entitled to change the rules are the owners.
If a private citizen or a customer doesn't like it they don't have to go there or be a customer anymore. The ruling in Heller did not change the rules (and rights) of ownership of private property.
And smoke nazis.
The Heller Case has nothing to do with this. This is effected by a new Florida State Law enacted by the Florida Legislation that says an individual who has a concealed permit can have a firearm in their vehicle parked in their employers parking lot.
Been a member since ‘66, love USAA.
Like it or not, this USAA decision is within the law as published here.
A day care center where any educational activity occurs will qualify under “preschool” unless Florida requires industrial day care centers to be licensed and the USAA one is not licensed, which I doubt.
The parking lot issue re the USAA building is moot. It the lot used by people bringing kids to that “preschool?”
“Property” will be defined here under broad encompassing contiguous real estate terms and perhaps even more broadly under an intent of use doctrine.
USAA wins legally.
Live by the loopholes, die by the loopholes.
WOW! They're older than I am!
We love USAA. Bank accounts, insurance, mortgage, car loans, credit card, investments .....we have everything that they offer.
I really hope that they don't ever open up to civilians again.
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