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Bush's Trumanesque moment
Toronto Sun ^ | Salim Mansur

Posted on 06/28/2008 5:00:09 AM PDT by Clive

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1 posted on 06/28/2008 5:00:09 AM PDT by Clive
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2 posted on 06/28/2008 5:01:14 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

Amen


3 posted on 06/28/2008 5:06:53 AM PDT by Edgar3 (Steve Spurrier for President!)
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To: Clive

While it won’t restore the limbs and lives lost in vain, I’m glad President Bush finally got things right. His refusal of Sec. Rumsfeld’s resignation for so long, and his listening to political generals instead of reality being told by junior officers, have damaged this country immeasurably (devaluing our dollar as we print and borrow so much to pay the bills). What remains to be seen is whether we truly recover from it or if it will all be a blip.


4 posted on 06/28/2008 5:17:23 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Clive

“The situation in 1932 was due to the policies of the Republican Party control of the Government of the United States. The Republican Party, as I said a while ago, favors the privileged few and not the common everyday man. Ever since its inception, that party has been under the control of special privilege; and they have completely proved it in the 80th Congress. They proved it by the things they did to the people, and not for them. They proved it by the things they failed to do.”

-Harry Truman, Rat


5 posted on 06/28/2008 5:19:57 AM PDT by Impy (Hey Barack, you're ugly and your wife smells.)
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To: Gondring

The cost of the war pales compared to the bad loans/losses from the housing bubble. The dollar was devalued to save the banks from much of these losses, in affect spreading the pain from the banks to the population in general.


6 posted on 06/28/2008 5:32:00 AM PDT by DB
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To: Clive; All
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7 posted on 06/28/2008 5:37:37 AM PDT by musicman
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The Iraq story, moreover, reveals that all the liberal left talk of solidarity with the poor and the oppressed of Third World countries is merely the empty noise of do-nothing hypocrites when confronted with blood thirsty thugs.

They will decry a Bush rather than advance the freedom of those beaten down by despots.

Iraqis bear witness to this ugly truth and that is why good news from Iraq goes mostly unreported.


8 posted on 06/28/2008 5:51:38 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: Gondring; Clive
I’m glad President Bush finally got things right. His refusal of Sec. Rumsfeld’s resignation for so long, and his listening to political generals instead of reality being told by junior officers, have damaged this country immeasurably

In other words, the normal, expected outcome of having a civilian commanding a vast military-industrial-political complex.

Everyone from the Joint Chiefs to the pfc on KP duty thinks they know how to win the war from their perspective. The CINC has to pick the right needle (Petreas) out of the haystack without setting the barn on fire.

9 posted on 06/28/2008 5:53:30 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Impy
The dims became what the pubbies were... and the pubbies became the Party of Americans... until Reagan retired. I'm not certain what the pubbie party is today... it ain't Conservative... I KNOW that!

LLS

10 posted on 06/28/2008 5:55:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (REAGANISM... not communism!!!)
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To: Clive

Yea, but except for those who read the Internet, this article will not be seen by very many. Most older Americans do not use computers or read this stuff. They rely on the MSM for news in 15 second sound bites. Younger Americans do not read this kind of news. They are on the music, MTV, porn sites getting their kicks. So, only we few who read these sites will get too see this, thus it will not filter out too more than probably 15% of the population. As long as the MSM controls all the TV airways and we do not have a solid conservative TV station voice, this kind of good news gets out slowly or not at all. What we truly need is a conservative news channel, run by conservatives, with conservative only talking heads, to get the true and accurate news. But, of course, we will never have that. Old FOX news came the closest. Now it is more liberal than the old FOX was.


11 posted on 06/28/2008 6:16:35 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Congress in session, the White House occupied - Your freedom, liberty and rights are in jeopardy.)
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To: Clive

+1


12 posted on 06/28/2008 7:01:57 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("In Israel, the President hit the nail on the head. The nails are complaining loudly." - John Bolton)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The “pubbies” were never far-left slime.


13 posted on 06/28/2008 7:29:03 AM PDT by Impy (Hey Barack, you're ugly and your wife smells.)
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To: Impy
olympia snowe, chuck hagel, arlen spector, susan collins, michael bloomberg, lincoln chafee and a grand assortment of other rino trash... all leftists and all voting the majority of time with pelosi and reid. Your definition of far-left slime is dubious at best.

LLS

14 posted on 06/28/2008 7:38:25 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (REAGANISM... not communism!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I am speaking of the Republican party of the past which you claim the “dims became”.


15 posted on 06/28/2008 7:48:21 AM PDT by Impy (Hey Barack, you're ugly and your wife smells.)
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To: Clive
The Iraq story, moreover, reveals that all the liberal left talk of solidarity with the poor and the oppressed of Third World countries is merely the empty noise of do-nothing hypocrites when confronted with blood thirsty thugs.

This is the commiecRats in a nutshell.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

16 posted on 06/28/2008 8:05:28 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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To: Gondring

Twas ever thus. We didn’t know of problems with the prosecution of WWII for many years. There are always problems ‘on the ground’ and Iraq is no exception. Thank goodness the President was strong enough to buck the onslaught from the media, and even some conservatives, to do what he knew was the right thing. He grieves for every soldier lost,and has met with the families of most of them. He visits those who have been severely injured and are at DC area hospitals, and has had quite a number of soldiers who are recovering from their injuries to the White House. No one can fault him for his treatment of the troops.


17 posted on 06/28/2008 8:28:16 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Impy

Agreed.

LLS


18 posted on 06/28/2008 8:53:58 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (REAGANISM... not communism!!!)
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To: Gondring; All

“I’m glad President Bush finally got things right.”

One of the things that were done right is to provide small injections of funds for locally relevant and handled projects. I worked for 3 years as the administrative secretary for something called Small and Impact Projects at an NGO. These were some 600 projects ranging from $100 to $10,000 around 1965, which were developed by the people themselves and funded by us. This is far different from having major corporations like Halliburton or Bectel come in throwing huge amounts of money around that can so easily disappear into the wrong hands.

Another experience I had back then was when taking an official from a small African country to the Science and Technology Museum. We were going through the 19th Century farming exhibit and he became very excited. He pointed to various nonmechanized farm implements and said “This is what we need in my country. These are things our own blacksmiths could make and our people can easily use and repair.” Of course, this would not make the big farm implement companies happy. I was surprised to see all the huge billboard ads for such companies when I went to Nicaragua in 1964. This, of course, was before the dictator Somoza was overthrown. Incidentally, this was partly because after the terrible earthquake they had in Managua, his monopoly cement company was profiteering like mad on the devastated peoples need to rebuild.


19 posted on 06/28/2008 9:08:30 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: DB
The cost of the war pales compared to the bad loans/losses from the housing bubble. The dollar was devalued to save the banks from much of these losses, in affect spreading the pain from the banks to the population in general.

Actually, if you think the housing bubble costs are bad, Iraq spending is FAR greater than the bank losses and the Fed bailout, etc.

When the country's largest subprime lender, New Century Financial, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy (April 2007), its total liabilities could have been paid off with less than a day of Iraq costs.

King George W. Pyrrhus has bought us a grand victory, indeed! With our money, of couse...)

Personally, I think most Americans would want their $20,000 back.

20 posted on 06/28/2008 10:27:34 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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